Merge in turn? No way pal!

[Barry Shitpeas]

This gets on my tits more than anything on the road. Why are people such arseholes? You get two lanes going into one, and of course the idea is that each car leaves enough room for another to get in, whether from the the left or right. Some understand this but unfortunately many people are so aggressive and territorial that they will purposely drive as close as possible to the car in front so that no one can get in, as this may make them potentially a half a second later than they were.
Are we all supposed to drive in just the one lane (usually the left) leaving the other one empty?

This is a particular pain in the arse on dual carriageways when one lane is signed as being closed in 2 miles, so everyone quickly gets over to the left, creating a queue twice as long as it needs to be, snarling up roundabouts and junctions behind.

[Since64]

This gets on my tits more than anything on the road. Why are people such arseholes? You get two lanes going into one, and of course the idea is that each car leaves enough room for another to get in, whether from the the left or right. Some understand this but unfortunately many people are so aggressive and territorial that they will purposely drive as close as possible to the car in front so that no one can get in, as this may make them potentially a half a second later than they were.
Are we all supposed to drive in just the one lane (usually the left) leaving the other one empty?

This is a particular pain in the arse on dual carriageways when one lane is signed as being closed in 2 miles, so everyone quickly gets over to the left, creating a queue twice as long as it needs to be, snarling up roundabouts and junctions behind.

You don't drive through Caerphilly between five and seven any week night by chance

[life on mars]

You don't drive through Caerphilly between five and seven any week night by chance

that was my very thought ,the lanes are there to use, but dont be foolish or fooled to use them

[itkman]

This gets on my tits more than anything on the road. Why are people such arseholes? You get two lanes going into one, and of course the idea is that each car leaves enough room for another to get in, whether from the the left or right. Some understand this but unfortunately many people are so aggressive and territorial that they will purposely drive as close as possible to the car in front so that no one can get in, as this may make them potentially a half a second later than they were.
Are we all supposed to drive in just the one lane (usually the left) leaving the other one empty?

This is a particular pain in the arse on dual carriageways when one lane is signed as being closed in 2 miles, so everyone quickly gets over to the left, creating a queue twice as long as it needs to be, snarling up roundabouts and junctions behind.

Add in the people that decide to try and block the outside lane so that people can't (correctly) drive in both lanes until the end and then merge.

They don't half get the hump if you manage to squeeze past them.

[David Vincent]

Add in the people that decide to try and block the outside lane so that people can't (correctly) drive in both lanes until the end and then merge.

They don't half get the hump if you manage to squeeze past them.

That's the problem. Most people are thick. If you drive past them they think you are cheating and then they will try and block you.

[Cleve van Leef]

That's the problem. Most people are thick. If you drive past them they think you are cheating and then they will try and block you.

And they are right.

[Llanedeyrnblue]

Add in the people that decide to try and block the outside lane so that people can't (correctly) drive in both lanes until the end and then merge.

They don't half get the hump if you manage to squeeze past them.

Lorry drivers block lanes and have a 100% success rate

[Ring_Peace]

Stupid British people. It's in your DNA to queue.

[Barry Shitpeas]

Stupid British people. It's in your DNA to queue.

Don't get me started on queuing. It's got it's place but queuing at the entrance to a petrol station forecourt making everyone else queue out into the road when there are spare pumps you could be using is really booody annoying. But worse than this, is this bizarre new thing that's started occurring over the last few years of people queuing in line at the bar in pubs. Hangings too good for em I tells ya.

[Lawnmower]

Junction for Llantrisant Road heading into Llandaff by Cathedral School is the worst.
Had a few issues there, which is mad as I'm pretty fair and don't try to jump my place. One old tart in a flashy BMW had the right hump as I didn't let her in even though I let the car in in front of her then took my turn.
Another bloke was so annoyed at losing a place I thought he was going to cry.

Crazy

[Feedback]

This gets on my tits more than anything on the road. Why are people such arseholes? You get two lanes going into one, and of course the idea is that each car leaves enough room for another to get in, whether from the the left or right. Some understand this but unfortunately many people are so aggressive and territorial that they will purposely drive as close as possible to the car in front so that no one can get in, as this may make them potentially a half a second later than they were.
Are we all supposed to drive in just the one lane (usually the left) leaving the other one empty?

This is a particular pain in the arse on dual carriageways when one lane is signed as being closed in 2 miles, so everyone quickly gets over to the left, creating a queue twice as long as it needs to be, snarling up roundabouts and junctions behind.

Whilst I fully agree with your position it matters not if the queue begins at the point of convergence or two miles before it because the flow of cars through the single lane will be the same.

[Barry Dragon]

Whilst I fully agree with your position it matters not if the queue begins at the point of convergence or two miles before it because the flow of cars through the single lane will be the same.

But the queuing will therefore go back further. And in the case of city roads cause junctions to be unnecessarily blocked.

Penarth Road going west from central station is a prime example of this, you get people trying to block the lane from by the station, causing traffic to build up round callaghan square.

There are less accidents and traffic flows smoother if you merge right at the end, not half a mile before, or in the case of motorways several miles before.

[Rhiw-Blue]

But the queuing will therefore go back further. And in the case of city roads cause junctions to be unnecessarily blocked.

Penarth Road going west from central station is a prime example of this, you get people trying to block the lane from by the station, causing traffic to build up round callaghan square.

There are less accidents and traffic flows smoother if you merge right at the end, not half a mile before, or in the case of motorways several miles before.

So you're doing a public service by flying by the queue of people who have waited their turn in line and then expecting to cut in at the last minute? There I was thinking that type were the ones taking the piss where all along you were worried about clogging up junctions behind you and not saving time queueing yourself

[the other bob wilson]

So you're doing a public service by flying by the queue of people who have waited their turn in line and then expecting to cut in at the last minute? There I was thinking that type were the ones taking the piss where all along you were worried about clogging up junctions behind you and not saving time queueing yourself

My thoughts exactly.

[BLUETIT]

So you're doing a public service by flying by the queue of people who have waited their turn in line and then expecting to cut in at the last minute? There I was thinking that type were the ones taking the piss where all along you were worried about clogging up junctions behind you and not saving time queueing yourself

My thoughts exactly.

Seconded

[Igovernor]

So you're doing a public service by flying by the queue of people who have waited their turn in line and then expecting to cut in at the last minute? There I was thinking that type were the ones taking the piss where all along you were worried about clogging up junctions behind you and not saving time queueing yourself

Quite, fully agree

[Croesy Blue]

So you're doing a public service by flying by the queue of people who have waited their turn in line and then expecting to cut in at the last minute? There I was thinking that type were the ones taking the piss where all along you were worried about clogging up junctions behind you and not saving time queueing yourself

But that's how it's supposed to work.

Do people really that pathetic to get wound up about someone getting in front of them in a queue when driving, people need to chill out.

[LordKenwyne]

I think people flying to the final point to cut in is why people do this.

Bottom of the barrel scum!.

Best way to avoid is to plonk your car inbetween the lanes. I did this once and I don't think I have ever seen a more angry person in the car trying to pass. I wouldn't advise doing it.

[WJ99mobile]

But that's how it's supposed to work.

Do people really that pathetic to get wound up about someone getting in front of them in a queue when driving, people need to chill out.

I bet you're the sort of person to wave a note at a bartender even when it's not your turn

[Barry Dragon]

So you're doing a public service by flying by the queue of people who have waited their turn in line and then expecting to cut in at the last minute? There I was thinking that type were the ones taking the piss where all along you were worried about clogging up junctions behind you and not saving time queueing yourself

Jumping the queue? I am joining a queue, a queue people have for what must be completely irrational reasons decided not to join. And yes it does cause junctions to be blocked. Such setups in the city are there for a reason, that is to allow traffic to queue where there is not a junction to block.

So yes you are the one being inconsiderate by not using both lanes and causing backup of traffic behind you. Causing delays to other people's journeys. By joining the queue in both junctions it saves everyone time, apart from those that decide to not use both lanes.

That is how it is designed, so use it properly. Don't cause backup of traffic.

[lardy]

Jumping the queue? I am joining a queue, a queue people have for what must be completely irrational reasons decided not to join. And yes it does cause junctions to be blocked. Such setups in the city are there for a reason, that is to allow traffic to queue where there is not a junction to block.

So yes you are the one being inconsiderate by not using both lanes and causing backup of traffic behind you. Causing delays to other people's journeys. By joining the queue in both junctions it saves everyone time, apart from those that decide to not use both lanes.

That is how it is designed, so use it properly. Don't cause backup of traffic.

I've no problem with people doing this, unless theyre in a beemer.

[LordKenwyne]

Jumping the queue? I am joining a queue, a queue people have for what must be completely irrational reasons decided not to join. And yes it does cause junctions to be blocked. Such setups in the city are there for a reason, that is to allow traffic to queue where there is not a junction to block.

So yes you are the one being inconsiderate by not using both lanes and causing backup of traffic behind you. Causing delays to other people's journeys. By joining the queue in both junctions it saves everyone time, apart from those that decide to not use both lanes.

That is how it is designed, so use it properly. Don't cause backup of traffic.

So what if everyone does that?.

[insider]

Jumping the queue? I am joining a queue, a queue people have for what must be completely irrational reasons decided not to join. And yes it does cause junctions to be blocked. Such setups in the city are there for a reason, that is to allow traffic to queue where there is not a junction to block.

So yes you are the one being inconsiderate by not using both lanes and causing backup of traffic behind you. Causing delays to other people's journeys. By joining the queue in both junctions it saves everyone time, apart from those that decide to not use both lanes.

That is how it is designed, so use it properly. Don't cause backup of traffic.

How you could have possibly got I'm doing people a favour into your head is beyond me. You are queue jumping nothing more nothing less. You eventually have to get over to the left hand lane but your entitlement means you don't have to queue with all the rest. You just saunter down the right hand lane then cut in at the merge point.
Your lot are up there with people that take short cuts whilst leaving The CCS.

[Barry Dragon]

How you could have possibly got I'm doing people a favour into your head is beyond me. You are queue jumping nothing more nothing less. You eventually have to get over to the left hand lane but your entitlement means you don't have to queue with all the rest. You just saunter down the right hand lane then cut in at the merge point.
Your lot are up there with people that take short cuts whilst leaving The CCS.

Its not doing someone a favour, its not being that arsehole who causes a junction to be blocked. People dont seem to know the road exists behind them aswell as infront. By leaving half a mile of dual carriage road half empty do you honestly think that helps anyone other than your own satisfaction as queuing? Its doesnt. It under utlises the road, it casues you anger issues when people utilise the road effectively, or as you put it, queue jump. It causes traffic to not flow aswell as people jump in all over the place, which also causes more pollution. It can cause junctions to be blocked. And its actually less likely to cause an accident, as you know when they are merging in (at the end where you are supposed to).

This has all been proven by studies.

Just because you like to queue, we all do we are british, does not mean you should opt for queuing over using the roads as they are meant to be used.

I really dont understand how queuing is more important than:

• Traffic Flow
• Angers issues
• Accidents
• Pollution
• Congestion
• Effective queuing

If everyone used both lanes, guess what. We all queue nicely too. No queue jumping, and all the above.

It just makes sense.

[Barry Dragon]

So what if everyone does that?.

Then there are less queues. Traffic moves faster. People don't need to get angry that people jump the queue as they is nothing to jump, and people don't get angry by blocking lanes. Everything works properly.

That sounds good. Do it.