going to Man Utd than Arsenal ?
Wenger never seems to give him a fair crack of the whip despite Aaron
scoring in FA Cup finals to earn him his only recent trophies.
Could he have done better signing up for Fergie back in the day ?
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going to Man Utd than Arsenal ?
Wenger never seems to give him a fair crack of the whip despite Aaron
scoring in FA Cup finals to earn him his only recent trophies.
Could he have done better signing up for Fergie back in the day ?
Yes I think so. The Arsenal fans are a disgrace. He needs to leave this summer and join a club where the supporters will appreciate him.
I can't stand arsenal fans, I know a few in Cardiff. One has even stopped following them completely coz they haven't won anything....hope Rambo goes to Spain to be honest....qualityOriginally Posted by Pearcey3
probably the reason your Arsenal 'friend' has stopped following The Arsenal is because like many others, has become disillusioned with the useless triumvirate in charge. the club is seen by the yank as a cash cow, lining his, the board & the managers pockets. from the outside all may look rosy, but the total lack of ambition to challenge for trophies is disheartening. 4th place is not a trophy neither is falling at 1st knock out stage of european cup. where does consistency become mediocrity become failure. le fraud is a stubborn myopic dinosaur who will not / cannot adapt to modern tactics, he chooses a team of snowflakes who won't challenge him and appear content with their obscene wage packet...
They
Ike to make a profit hey? Weird as the people who own arsenal are so wealthy I'm sure a few more drops of water in their vast oceans make little difference. Still, it's hardly sufferation is it?? There are 6 big clubs in England these days arsenal are just one of them...
I think your mate posts on here too.
I reckon united could have done with him too. They've missed a decent centre mid since your keanes and scholes retired
Utd had central midfielders Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher & Park Ji-Sung for at least 4 years after Ramsey's move to Arsenal. He would've spent years on the bench.
Whereas at Arsenal he has spent years on the bench.
Not true.
Before this injury hit season Wenger picked him virtually as an ever present.
With Arsenal's form dropping, fans hostile to Wenger (and the team), together with Ramsey's injuries, I would like to see him manager be on in the summer.
Finally, I note Wenger plays him more as the defensive midfielder, which is not his best position (in my opinion)
Move on in the summer - sorry predictive text.....
Wouldn't have been given as many opportunities at United, plus he would have been either shipped out or would have had to go through the Moyes-Van Gaal-Mourinho years
A move to Spain/Germany/Italy hopefully on the cards in the summer
a move to rangers would garantee him first team football.
He could beat Rangers on his own, even when his leg was broken.
Ramsey has made nearly 200 premier league appearances for Arsenal, and has made it as a top Premier League player, who when fit is selected by Wenger. He has clearly been given a chance at Arsenal and he has clearly taken it. We are at a time where players signed from outside the Top division in this country do not really get a chance in a top 6 side (the only other player i can think of currently doing this is Delle Ali).
Lets say Ramsey's Arsenal career re-started in 2011 (after his leg break and after his loan to us). At this point Manchester United were a sign and sell club. The fans wanted the big names in and developing players had to go elsewhere. Paul Pogba had to leave in 2012 only to return to the club for next to £90m, to reinforce the point that developing was not top of their agenda.
Maybe there is a case that Ramsey should move on soon, however its difficult to make a case that he hasnt been given opportunities. I think Arsenal has been a fine fit for him, and have helped shape him in to the player he is today.
You are right to the extent that if you compiled a chart of the players who've made the most midfield appearances in Arsenal starting elevens since he signed for them, Ramsey would be at, or close to, the top of it. However, Wenger has never been sure of his best position or, if he is, he switches him about too much to get the best out of him. Ramsey was the best player in the Premier League for much of the 13/14 season when he was confident and injury free and playing in the position in which he was selected for the select team of Euro 16.
I watch Ramsey playing for Arsenal now and think he is playing to about 40 per cent of his potential. Some of that is his own fault, but a manager who would have been regarded as one of the greats if he had retired a decade ago has been a hindrance to him as well with the ridiculous decision to select Ramsey in the season opener with Liverpool when every other Arsenal player who was in action in the latter stages of the Euros was rested being typical of how Wenger has mismanaged him in recent seasons.
He would have surpassed those players. Are people forgetting how he broke into the arsenal team at 18? With players like Cesc, Nasri, Rosicky and Song. Imagine he never had that injury. Look at how he bossed the Euros for us. For Wales ffs
Can't believe you rolled off fletcher, Ramsey bossed him when we beat Scotland 3-0 at CCS. Park was effective, but not the orchestrating midfielder Ramsey is. Carrick I'll give you..but I think Ramsey alongside carrick would've brought united great success.
Bollocks to FFP, come on Vincent, you know what to do
Think he would have been far better off at united. He's completely wasted at Arsenal, played out of position depsite the fact that he showed how good he can be when given an attacking role during the season he was top scorer in the league up until an spell out injured.
Worse than that though, leg break aside, I'm pretty sure Wenger and Arsenal's training reigeme is to blame for most of his injuries. They have a terrible reputation for it. I remeber Arsene once openly admitted to playing him knowing he was carrying a knock and Aaron spent another lengthy spell on the sidelines following that game.
Added to that, they surely have the most fickle fans in the country? Ready to turn on thier own players after one misplaced pass, unless of course it's golden boy Ozil, who has been dog sh!te for sometime now but still seems to be held as the best player of all time by Arsenal fans?!
BBC 'experts' laid right into him after the WBA game in their analysis and it seems that Arsenal's loss was largely down to him
In all fairness he's massively over rated on here.BBC 'experts' laid right into him after the WBA game in their analysis and it seems that Arsenal's loss was largely down to him
A good player no doubt but when he does leave Arsenal it won't be for a bigger club imo
Agree, I've not read a reply that addresses his short comings. He's a wonderful player when others are playing well around him, take that luxury away, he blends into the background. I've always thought that he takes a touch too many, and is slow on the ball, in my opinion he lacks a certain urgency that great players possess. Four of the greatest midfield players produced in this country over the last 20 years or so-Keane, Lampard, Scholes and Gerrard, possessed a will to win, a nasty edge that contributed to them either winning games with ability, character and hard work, If Ramsey is to be considered as good as them, then he needs the mental streak that they possess, he doesn't have that, maybe more natural ability, but not that ability to drag a team with him.
His form has certainly dipped and this could be down to a number of factors but his pedigree is not in question.
Whether he leaves or Wenger leaves, a change is definitely needed for the lad.
My post though was more the fact that he didn't challenge for the headers. Okay it did not look great but should he really be picking up the big guys from corners?
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