Reply With QuoteNo, the likes of Kinnock and his wife etc, but the majority YesOriginally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
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Do you consider Labour MPs as all socialists?Did I not hear Labour Mp's laughing their nuggets off when the announcement was being made in the house with the speaker having to demand order?.
It's almost as pathetic as a MB poster announcing retirement like a 5 year old, only to return 10 mins later
No, the likes of Kinnock and his wife etc, but the majority Yes
[QUOTE=Alfonso Perez;4726906]Ok. I don't know your politics but your defense of his action is not credible. He has no support from within his own party and it was made clear to him the policy was a non starter. He had no choice but to Uturn.
Fair play it's ill-informed posts like this which remind me why I try to stay away from political threads on here. For info, just because someone has a different opinion than you does not automatically mean that they are a right winger.
Is this the first time you watched footage from the HOC? It is constant childish shit from all sides.Did I not hear Labour Mp's laughing their nuggets off when the announcement was being made in the house with the speaker having to demand order?.
It's almost as pathetic as a MB poster announcing retirement like a 5 year old, only to return 10 mins later
CCMB champagne socialists own goalI know the irony here is astonishing
No irony. Hammond has committed to the social care funding. He had better stick to his promises or he will take another caning. Perhaps he can find the money by taking away the money May wants to waste on building grammar schools.I know the irony here is astonishing
Silly me. There was me thinking it was a Tory cabinet own goalCCMB champagne socialists own goal
Thanks for pointing out the mistake!
(PS I borrowed some smilies from chris
Of course if a Labour Chancellor had to do a humiliating Uturn the Tory opposition would just sit there and approve of such refreshing behaviour. The hypocrisy on here is laughable.
I know Jon. They will try and Blame Corbyn if they can. Or is it Blair?Silly me. There was me thinking it was a Tory cabinet own goal
Thanks for pointing out the mistake!
(PS I borrowed some smilies from chris
[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4726921]When it comes to politics I think that there are far too many people who think that their opinion is far more important/credible than others. At the end of the day it is about opinions & if we all thought the same way the world would be a very boring place. You think that Hammond had no choice & I want to give him some credit for changing his mind, in the grand scheme of things it's not something to get really excited about!
[QUOTE=Alfonso Perez;4726940]OK. If thats your genuinely held belief.
Are you convinced that was what actually happened?
Where did you glean that - big poster on the side of a bus ? again ..
Ah, the old 2-party illusion of choice trick is still going strong
Corbyn's performance at Question Time was predictably feeble, but how some can view a complete cave in by the Chancellor and Prime Minister as anything other than embarrassing for the Government is beyond me. Of course, there are those who turn things on their head and so it becomes another opportunity to blame the Labour Party, but, forget whether the policy was right or wrong, it was craven and cowardly for May and Hammond to collapse like they did and, by any normal political standards, they should really be on the defensive now because of their weakness.
What's pathetic is any Government which rolls out a policy in a budget one week with all of the bluster and ridiculing of the opposition that you always get. It's also pathetic that the opposition has to oppose that policy just because they are supposed to do that and then it's even more pathetic that, within a week, the same Government is now saying that, although the Chancellor still believes it was the correct policy, they were wrong - so, we are all supposed to forget what they were saying last week.
As was remarked earlier in the thread, you would be having a field day if a Labour Government had behaved like this one has done in the last seven days, and when Osborn had to climb down two years ago - just because the main opposition party is rubbish, it doesn't mean that this isn't a weak and too easily swayed Government.
I don't think posters are particularly critical of the theory behind Hammonds attempted change to NI.
If it had been in the manifesto, and they had been elected with it in the manifesto, it could not have attracted criticism.
But it wasn't in the election manifesto - quite the opposite.
And if it had been, they may well have not managed to secure an election victory.
It is indefensible! - yet you persist.
If it is a great idea (and on the face of things, it might be) perhaps they can 'simply' put it in their next election* manifesto.
I very much suspect that they wont - eh?! (* if we are still pretending to be a democracy by then).
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Have you thought about seeing a doctor?
Blimey, someone needs another timeout.
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