Reply With QuoteIts an embarrassing Uturn. They broke a manifesto pledge and the right wing rags went after him so he meekly backtracked. He tried to ride it out but the manifesto made crystal clear they would not hike NI taxation. A complete shambles.
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Is it really an embarrassing u-turn, or is it refreshing to see a politician admit he's made a mistake, and put it right?
Its an embarrassing Uturn. They broke a manifesto pledge and the right wing rags went after him so he meekly backtracked. He tried to ride it out but the manifesto made crystal clear they would not hike NI taxation. A complete shambles.
Embarrassing U turn.
Embarrassing U Turn. By a party who thought they were in a position to do what they liked, but hadn't counted on the ragtop newspapers turning on them, and a potential backlash from their white van man/woman voter base.
The opposition should have ripped him and the Tories apart at PMQ's today, feel it didn't achieve that , in fact they bleated on in a way , where they were telling a small child off , then moved onto other subject a matter that didn't land any killer punches,lost opportunity ??.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7631221.html
Surely so.
But lost opportunity for what exactly though?
Embarrassing.
Not a great prelude to the Brexit negotiations showing signs of weakness (wrong forum btw)
Maybe, or maybe that people know that the u-turn was embarrassing enough so better to look at other things?Originally Posted by life on mars
I think it's refreshing that a politician has listened & acted upon the feedback. Admitting that you are wrong can be a difficult thing to do so credit to Hammond for taking the action he has
Its got nothing to do with listening. The hard right press control this Government. They say jump and May and Co jump.Lets not give credit where none is due.
This and there comes a point where competence to do the job must be questioned. How many u-turns? How expensive is all this time they waste coming up with policies that end up in the bin 2 weeks later? PIP changes, Forced Academisation, Tax Credits, etc.
Like most political parties there is likely to be some outside influence but to say that they are controlled by the hard right press is complete & utter nonsense.
Hammond should be criticised for going back on an election pledge (or at least that it was so heavily used against labour and did not come with sufficient explanation) but a Tory recognising that tax rises may be a necessary part of the solution (rather than 3 more years of cuts) should be applauded. He may have done it wrong but it's a conversation worth having.
Socialists now celebrating that less money will be going to social care!!!!.
It was not a massive amount anyway a drop in the oceanto what the nhs needs.
No its not. Its tulical of ghe right wingers on here that when the Tories **** up you haven't got the balls to admit it.
I have not criticised the policy. I have criticised the fact (and it is a fact) that they have broken a manifesto pledge. They have then tried to wriggle out of saying they were in breach of their manifesto and the likes of you have tried to argue there was no such breach.That statement is as predictable as the sunrise.
He should have kept it as it was, - under 16k a year - you would have paid LESS NI, 17k a year a whopping £20 a YEAR, or if you were on 52k a year - you would have paid £620 a year MORE NI. The 52k a year person is the sort of person Labour want to HAMMER on tax. and yet here is Hammond doing your 'dirty work' for you - and your still fecking moaning
You would be thd first to have a go if a Labour Chancellor had acted in such a way so why not quit your bleating.
[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4726889]No its not. Its typical of the right wingers on here that when the Tories **** up you haven't got the balls to admit it.
Odd you should say that as I'd welcome an increase in taxation or NI to help our underfunded public services. I appreciate many wouldn't, but if we want good schools, policing and healthcare it needs paying for, especially if we're not interested in going after the multinational conglomerates.
Eric likes this.
[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4726889]No its not. Its typical of right wingers like you not to admit the complete **** up of this budget.
No one is celebrating that. What a pathetic thing to say
[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4726900]Fair play it's ill-informed posts like this which remind me why I try to stay away from political threads on here. For info, just because someone has a different opinion than you does not automatically mean that they are a right winger.
Or maybe saying that the self-employed aren't the group who can easily afford more tax?
Can you imagine what the media reaction would be if a left wing party reversed a manifesto pledge on the countries finances, faced a backlash and reversed again within a week? "Clueless" and "Can't be trusted" would be two likely headlines.
Did I not hear Labour Mp's laughing their nuggets off when the announcement was being made in the house with the speaker having to demand order?.
It's almost as pathetic as a MB poster announcing retirement like a 5 year old, only to return 10 mins later
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