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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Three months ago I would have said that Tweet was a piss take - there was no way on earth that a President of the United States would say something like that for public consumption, I know better now we've got Trump's team of none of the talents in charge.
    It is quite feasible that they really are meant to be a kind of deliberate p1ss-take. Not necessarily toward N. Korea, nor China etc but possibly to create further division and confusion on 'home turf' between his followers who like this kind of approach, and his detractors who do not.
    There are theories as to why that divisiveness might be considered useful to Team Trump, but I'm not sure that it is quite panning out as they expect so far.

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    Better post this now as I might forget upon hearing the two-minute warning siren.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Better post this now as I might forget upon hearing the two-minute warning siren.

    Bring on the DOOM porn.

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    Unsure if it has been said on here but in an interview Trump said they sent 59 missiles to Iraq to send a message...

    How much of an influence will trump have over the armed forces? I doubt that much. I always imagined the military being quite ring fenced. Is that correct?.

    It is not like Trump will being sitting around a world map drawing up plans. He may just ok just of the more stupid ideas given to him.

    He has been in charge for 3 months now, learning on the job. He probably had no idea where idlib or wherever was prior to his win.

    So it gives me the idea there is a underlying set of instructions that would have been carried out regardless of who was in power. Different faces, same plan.

    Am I being paranoid?. Maybe. Or maybe Trump sat down with some murky characters post election win and they said, "Look, this is how it is going to go in regard our foreign policy".

    Did George Bush draw up the idea to invade Iraq?. No chance. There are some advisers somewhere calling all the shots. Their advisory roles cemented even when power is passed from one person to another in the main job.

    I could well be babbling a load of rubbish here.
    Last edited by LordKenwyne; 13-04-17 at 09:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    Unsure if it has been said on here but in an interview Trump said they sent 59 missiles to Iraq to send a message...

    How much of an influence will trump have over the armed forces? I doubt that much. I always imagined the military being quite ring fenced. Is that correct?.

    It is not like Trump will being sitting around a world map drawing up plans. He may just ok just of the more stupid ideas given to him.

    He has been in charge for 3 months now, learning on the job. He probably had no idea where idlib or wherever was prior to his win.

    So it gives me the idea there is a underlying set of instructions that would have been carried out regardless of who was in power. Different faces, same plan.

    Am I being paranoid?. Maybe. Or maybe Trump sat down with some murky characters post election win and they said, "Look, this is how it is going to go in regard our foreign policy".

    Did George Bush draw up the idea to invade Iraq?. No chance. There are some advisers somewhere calling all the shots. Their advisory roles cemented even when power is passed from one person to another in the main job.

    I could well be babbling a load of rubbish here.
    Still more sense then a Donald Trump tweet don't be harsh on yourself 😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    Unsure if it has been said on here but in an interview Trump said they sent 59 missiles to Iraq to send a message...

    How much of an influence will trump have over the armed forces? I doubt that much. I always imagined the military being quite ring fenced. Is that correct?.

    It is not like Trump will being sitting around a world map drawing up plans. He may just ok just of the more stupid ideas given to him.

    He has been in charge for 3 months now, learning on the job. He probably had no idea where idlib or wherever was prior to his win.

    So it gives me the idea there is a underlying set of instructions that would have been carried out regardless of who was in power. Different faces, same plan.

    Am I being paranoid?. Maybe. Or maybe Trump sat down with some murky characters post election win and they said, "Look, this is how it is going to go in regard our foreign policy".

    Did George Bush draw up the idea to invade Iraq?. No chance. There are some advisers somewhere calling all the shots. Their advisory roles cemented even when power is passed from one person to another in the main job.

    I could well be babbling a load of rubbish here.
    Are you referring to the CFR?

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    Another good one. Described the long dead Pavarotti as a great friend of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Are you referring to the CFR?
    I've been reading their website for a while and I just thought they were a think tank/they collated articles from around the world.

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    It doesn't mention in the article below but there's much speculation that Korea might test a nuke on April 25th.

    Japanese destroyers join US strike group amid tensions on Korean Peninsula
    Published time: 21 Apr, 2017 14:52

    Two Japanese Navy destroyers have joined the carrier strike group ‘USS Carl Vinson’ heading towards the Korean Peninsula for a massive show of force as North Korea prepares to mark the 85th anniversary of the foundation of its military.
    The Japanese warships, destroyers ‘Ashigara’ and ‘Samidare’, left the navy’s Sasebo base early on Friday for a rendezvous with the ‘USS Carl Vinson’ group off North Korean shores, NHK reports.

    Defense Ministry officials said the details of the joint US-Japan naval exercise are yet to be determined. The drill comes as an apparent show of force aimed at deterring North Korea, which will mark the 85th anniversary of the foundation of its military next week.

    Though little is known about the naval exercise, the event was announced by the Japanese Navy earlier last week.

    “Japan wants to dispatch several destroyers as the ‘Carl Vinson’ enters the East China Sea,” said one of the Japanese military sources, as cited by Reuters.

    The source added that the drills would involve helicopter landings on both American and Japanese ships as well as communications training.

    The American strike group includes Nimitz-class aircraft carrier ‘USS Carl Vinson’ with her air wing, Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers ‘USS Wayne E. Meyer’ and ‘USS Michael Murphy’, as well as Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser ‘USS Lake Champlain’.

    More: https://www.rt.com/news/385600-us-ja...ampaign=chrome

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    In the past week or so Trump has stated China is not a currency manipulator. Before he was elected he said they did manipulate the yuan's value. Again before he was elected he expressed his "love" for Wikileaks, now they are a sinister tool of, you've guessed it, Russia. He's now "okay" with charging Assange. Everything Wikileaks has published has been true.

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    Trump making it up as he goes along. Backtracking on everything he said. I liked Trump when he first came along, I got taken in by him. Now he's just turning into another Obama. A fuking coward with no backbone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silures View Post
    Trump making it up as he goes along. Backtracking on everything he said. I liked Trump when he first came along, I got taken in by him. Now he's just turning into another Obama. A fuking coward with no backbone
    This is going to go down well..

    "Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue"
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...ueue-l7t8zwn7k

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    What did those who either voted for him or were fans this side of the Atlantic expecting?
    'He's going to shake up the establishment and do things different'
    Yeeeeeeaaaahhh right. The man's a narcissist 🔔 end of the highest order who's probably already bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    This is going to go down well..

    "Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue"
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...ueue-l7t8zwn7k
    Blimey .. ;)

    Still.. we still have the Pearly King, the Spitfire and Mr Churchill.
    We dun it before, and we was allroight.

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    There's a big safety exercise or drill in the US capital today: https://www.mwcog.org/newsroom/2017/...ency-managers/

    And Trump has invited all 100 members of the Senate to the Whitehouse to discuss the North Korea situation today too. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-no...-idUSKBN17Q1LR

    Both 9-11 and London 7-7 bombings occurred on drill days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    There's a big safety exercise or drill in the US capital today: https://www.mwcog.org/newsroom/2017/...ency-managers/

    And Trump has invited all 100 members of the Senate to the Whitehouse to discuss the North Korea situation today too. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-no...-idUSKBN17Q1LR

    Both 9-11 and London 7-7 bombings occurred on drill days.

    Thanks for the heads up but I don't think I'll be holding my breath on this one.

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    It's now reported he's invited all of Congress to attend the Whitehouse for a North Korea briefing at 3pm (8pm UK time).

    http://in.reuters.com/article/northk...-idINKBN17S0B5

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    Decided to stay in my bunker for a couple of days after reading Organ's predictions. Looks like the trouble has passed now. What did I miss?

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    You missed me visiting a Spar shop to add a jar of peanut butter to my doomsday grub stock. Wales-Bales had better steady himself before reading this next bit.

    Donald has admitted he's a globalist: Mr. Trump dismissed talk about a split inside his White House between aides with a nationalist or globalist orientation. "Hey, I'm a nationalist and a globalist," he said. "I'm both. And I'm the only one who makes the decision, believe me."

    It's the final paragraph here: http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...rade-pact.html

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    So even Trump is in the Fabian Society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    You missed me visiting a Spar shop to add a jar of peanut butter to my doomsday grub stock. Wales-Bales had better steady himself before reading this next bit.

    Donald has admitted he's a globalist: Mr. Trump dismissed talk about a split inside his White House between aides with a nationalist or globalist orientation. "Hey, I'm a nationalist and a globalist," he said. "I'm both. And I'm the only one who makes the decision, believe me."

    It's the final paragraph here: http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...rade-pact.html
    Mr T has let many down a stinker IMO.
    Swamp is still un-drained.
    Pizza still available.
    Hilary still at large.
    Planet in melt-down.

    Too big a job for one man and his very un-merry band perhaps. The shit is deeper than the shovel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    You missed me visiting a Spar shop to add a jar of peanut butter to my doomsday grub stock. Wales-Bales had better steady himself before reading this next bit.

    Donald has admitted he's a globalist: Mr. Trump dismissed talk about a split inside his White House between aides with a nationalist or globalist orientation. "Hey, I'm a nationalist and a globalist," he said. "I'm both. And I'm the only one who makes the decision, believe me."

    It's the final paragraph here: http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...rade-pact.html
    He's a fence-sitter, just like me

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    Now he's been leaking classified intelligence to the Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Now he's been leaking classified intelligence to the Russians.
    Is this news being reported by the Washington Post, New York Times or Buzzfeed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Is this news being reported by the Washington Post, New York Times or Buzzfeed?
    I've got my Gluey bingo card in hand and just need a 'fake news' to win a tenner. Come on...Come on...Let's have it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I've got my Gluey bingo card in hand and just need a 'fake news' to win a tenner. Come on...Come on...Let's have it...
    Was I right? Did I get a full house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Was I right? Did I get a full house?
    It's in your favourites Fox and Daily Mail, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It's in your favourites Fox and Daily Mail, too.
    Not my favourite at all

    At least he didn't sell any classified intelligence, now that would be something if they caught somebody doing just that!

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    Blimey, must be the quickest we've gone from Stage 1 (fake news) to Stage 2 (at least it's not as bad as something the Democrats did).

    This story is developing quickly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Blimey, must be the quickest we've gone from Stage 1 (fake news) to Stage 2 (at least it's not as bad as something the Democrats did).

    This story is developing quickly...
    It's so classified that I've known about it for weeks

    http://bfy.tw/BoFi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's so classified that I've known about it for weeks

    http://bfy.tw/BoFi
    So the National Security Advisor rushed out a statement because trump had repeated something from the newspaper. I think you're in the denial stage now.


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    Ok - what did he say ?

    Where was it published on the internet previous to Trump talking about it to the Russian fella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Ok - what did he say ?

    Where was it published on the internet previous to Trump talking about it to the Russian fella.
    When they were talkining about the general threats to aviation, Trump mentioned the thing about the laptops on planes which has been in the news for weeks. In fact, some airlines have already banned them, so I'm not sure how it's supposed to be secret information

    The most interesting part of the story is which news outlets actually went gung-ho with their news reporting
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 16-05-17 at 10:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    When they were talkining about the general threats to aviation, Trump mentioned the thing about the laptops on planes which has been in the news for weeks. In fact, some airlines have already banned them, so I'm not sure how it's supposed to be secret information

    The most interesting part of the story is which news outlets actually went gung-ho with their news reporting
    If you're right then surely the most interesting part of the story is the massive overreaction by the White House to a chip paper story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    If you're right then surely the most interesting part of the story is the massive overreaction by the White House to a chip paper story.
    You know how the media works, you've got to nip it in the bud. It won't stop them going on and on about it though. It seems like a diversion tactic to me, maybe there are bigger things in in the pipeline? Henry Kissinger recently made an unannounced visit to the Whitehouse, and rumour has it Jess Sessions (AG) has got all of Comey's office files in his possesion, hence the reason why he was fired while away in LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You know how the media works, you've got to nip it in the bud. It won't stop them going on and on about it though. It seems like a diversion tactic to me, maybe there are bigger things in in the pipeline? Henry Kissinger recently made an unannounced visit to the Whitehouse, and rumour has it Jess Sessions (AG) has got all of Comey's office files in his possesion, hence the reason why he was fired while away in LA.
    Just trying to remember the last time the National Security Advisor was nipping a nothing story in the bud on the White House Lawn. Ermm, ummm, ermm, errmmm, ummm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Just trying to remember the last time the National Security Advisor was nipping a nothing story in the bud on the White House Lawn. Ermm, ummm, ermm, errmmm, ummm...
    Well it all seems pretty quiet at the moment if you ignore this storm in a teacup, so my guess is something is brewing (and it's not more tea).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Well it all seems pretty quiet at the moment if you ignore this storm in a teacup, so my guess is something is brewing (and it's not more tea).
    Jeez, you're watching a different show to the rest of us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Jeez, you're watching a different show to the rest of us...
    The globalist owned media are making a song and dance about it, and it seems very coordinated, so what happens next? It just looks like #Pissgate Mk2 to me

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