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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    If Donald Trump's next presidential campaign is "better a racist than a socialist" and he wins then goodness me. You can disagree absolutely with everything these four house representatives have said but at best Trump is choosing to weaponize racism in order to win political points.....I don't see how anyone who doesn't reject this deserves any votes.
    Is not liking people who hate America racism? Congress doesn't think so, cos they voted down yesterday's motion. The promlem is terms like racist and concentration camp are now being used freely for political gain, which will diminish their true meaning. That's the thing about identity politics, you have to stick labels on everything, and the worse they are the better it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So what? How about the actual story that doesn't quite add up? Or do you only believe things that are written in the (insert name here) which is owned by (insert name here)? You need to be more agile with your news sources. Every news outlet is a mixture of fact and fiction, so it's up to you to sort out which is which, otherwise you will end up like lardy posting BS everyday
    I think (for about the twelfth trillion time tyiuve been told this) you really ought to practise what you preach about your news sources and what others should read when you preach the same political message all the time 😂😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    I think (for about the twelfth trillion time tyiuve been told this) you really ought to practise what you preach about your news sources and what others should read when you preach the same political message all the time ������
    All I can say is I tend to get more things right than I get wrong, so the proof of the pudding is in the eating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Is not liking people who hate America racism? Congress doesn't think so, cos they voted down yesterday's motion. The trouble is terms like racist and concentration camp are now being used freely for political gain, which will diminish their true meaning.
    I don't think I can respond reasonably to that.... Forget about who said it and the political climate, if you can't see that was racist then we don't even live on the same planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    I don't think I can respond reasonably to that.... Forget about who said it and the political climate, if you can't see that was racist then we don't even live on the same planet.
    You are out of line with the majority of people in America too, so your opinion doesn't count for much, even if you think it does. You may love the Squad and everything they stand for, but most people don't.

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    Things are heating up in the Persian Gulf: https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/...19144108994568


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    Q Will you be taking any action on Iran *today*?

    Trump: “A big event just happened in Iran. A big event.”

    Q And what will you be doing about it, sir?

    Trump: “A big event.”

    Since the above was posted it appears a US warship there shot down an Iranian drone. Whether that was the "big event" Trump spoke of is unclear at the moment.

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rait-of-hormuz

    Trump Says U.S. Shot Down Iranian Drone Near Strait of Hormuz

    Bloomberg News/ July 18, 2019, 2:17 PM CDT Updated on July 18, 2019, 2:21 PM CDT

    President Donald Trump said the U.S. shot down and “immediately destroyed” an Iranian drone that approached the USS Boxer near the Strait of Hormuz, Bloomberg News reports.

    The drone “was threatening the safety of the ship and the ship’s crew..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rait-of-hormuz

    Trump Says U.S. Shot Down Iranian Drone Near Strait of Hormuz

    Bloomberg News/ July 18, 2019, 2:17 PM CDT Updated on July 18, 2019, 2:21 PM CDT

    President Donald Trump said the U.S. shot down and “immediately destroyed” an Iranian drone that approached the USS Boxer near the Strait of Hormuz, Bloomberg News reports.

    The drone “was threatening the safety of the ship and the ship’s crew..."
    So, it's 1-1 in the drone wars?

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    That ship has, apparently, 2,000 US marines aboard. Also today the US has demanded Iran return a UAE tanker it supposedly pinched.

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    A quick recap of the Democrats attempts to takedown Trump.

    Trump is an idiot - Failed
    Trump is a deplorable - Failed
    Trump is a rapist - Failed
    Trump is colluding with Russia - Failed
    Trump is obstructing justice - Failed
    Trump is operating concentration camps - Failed
    Trump is a racist - Failed

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    Since these Iran tensions flared up last month I've taken to sleeping under the bed rather than on it.

    It's made more uncomfortable as I wear a bicycle safety helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Since these Iran tensions flared up last month I've taken to sleeping under the bed rather than on it.

    It's made more uncomfortable as I wear a bicycle safety helmet.
    That sounds like a good strategy. I have been tunneling into a nearby mountain for the past 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    That sounds like a good strategy. I have been tunneling into a nearby mountain for the past 10 years
    Interesting!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll

    In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated rocks, mountains, or caves.... and are rarely helpful to human beings.

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    Are these Iranian shenanigans a distraction from today's latest chapter in the Epstein saga, or are both distractions from something else about to go down the crapper such as Deutsche Bank being flushed?


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    I have always reckoned that cock-up explains events more accurately than conspiracy.

    However, I may just be persuaded by life on mars that the 'horseshoe principle' applies here.

    The more 'they' conspire, the more likely they are to cock it up? Although I expect we'll have a different view on who 'they' are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Are these Iranian shenanigans a distraction from today's latest chapter in the Epstein saga, or are both distractions from something else about to go down the crapper such as Deutsche Bank being flushed?
    “IT’S GOING TO BE STAGGERING, THE AMOUNT OF NAMES”: AS THE JEFFREY EPSTEIN CASE GROWS MORE GROTESQUE, MANHATTAN AND DC BRACE FOR IMPACT

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...more-grotesque

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I have always reckoned that cock-up explains events more accurately than conspiracy.

    However, I may just be persuaded by life on mars that the 'horseshoe principle' applies here.

    The more 'they' conspire, the more likely they are to cock it up? Although I expect we'll have a different view on who 'they' are.
    'They' just have to include at the top the biggest names in banking who have the privilege of creating an infinite amount of currency out of nothing at virtually no cost to loan with interest attached. They have indebted every country on the planet for there is not one amongst the 200 or so which is a creditor nation. The US has a national debt of $22 trillion and is running a trillion dollar budget deficit every year. Their central bank, the Federal Reserve, is privately owned and no-one knows who its shareholders are. The US government borrows money from it at interest instead of creating and issuing debt-free currency itself. Amazing but true, and since its creation in 1913 it has never been independently audited. Which leads in nicely to one of my favourite quotes - “The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts.” Henry Ford (1932).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    “IT’S GOING TO BE STAGGERING, THE AMOUNT OF NAMES”: AS THE JEFFREY EPSTEIN CASE GROWS MORE GROTESQUE, MANHATTAN AND DC BRACE FOR IMPACT

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...more-grotesque
    I've read flight logs indicate Bill Clinton visited Epstein's island honeytrap 26 or 28 times, his missus 4. Celebrity visitors included Madonna, Meryl Streep, Demi Moore and Steven Spielberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I've read flight logs indicate Bill Clinton visited Epstein's island honeytrap 26 or 28 times, his missus 4. Celebrity visitors included Madonna, Meryl Streep, Demi Moore and Steven Spielberg.
    All the Trump haters

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    I understand the legal 'data dump' re Epstein case is slated for 10pm UK time today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    I don't think I can respond reasonably to that.... Forget about who said it and the political climate, if you can't see that was racist then we don't even live on the same planet.
    He posts a quote by someone who has lived too close and too long to the political bubble saying that what his idol did was "politically brilliant" - I'm still hopeful that people with a more rounded appreciation of life found it morally repugnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    He posts a quote by someone who has lived too close and too long to the political bubble saying that what his idol did was "politically brilliant" - I'm still hopeful that people with a more rounded appreciation of life found it morally repugnant.
    I read somewhere yesterday that even Trump himself regretted on reflection the rally reaction and his part in it.

    If true someone check up on Wales Bales as his head will be in a right state working out how to react.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    He posts a quote by someone who has lived too close and too long to the political bubble saying that what his idol did was "politically brilliant" - I'm still hopeful that people with a more rounded appreciation of life found it morally repugnant.
    Most people found it morally repugnant - even a few Republicans and Fox News regulars. But racist attacks are fine with W-B/Ronnie as long as their boy brilliantly winds up his base and creates another false 'enemy within'. He and his apologists are sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    A quick recap of the Democrats attempts to takedown Trump.

    Trump is an idiot - Failed
    Trump is a deplorable - Failed
    Trump is a rapist - Failed
    Trump is colluding with Russia - Failed
    Trump is obstructing justice - Failed
    Trump is operating concentration camps - Failed
    Trump is a racist - Failed
    It's not going well .

    See a second term ?..

    Trump latest alleged racist remarks, reminds me off a lot of lads pub /work chatter during Brexit where they couldn't eloquently describe their views about the impact on their communities of immigration , and the actions of second generations British citizens delivering terror on the very streets that has provided them and their families a better life when seeking asylum .

    It does seem immigration hatred and its impact ,racism , non inclusiveness is all around us .

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    I think he's deliberately provoking a democrat reaction in defence of these females ,who are pretty universally unpopular in the United States of America , thus associating the democrats with these unpopular creatures.
    You must understand that people in America are not yet conditioned to defend all Islamic stuff in the way that British people are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    It's not going well .

    See a second term ?..

    Trump latest alleged racist remarks, reminds me off a lot of lads pub /work chatter during Brexit where they couldn't eloquently describe their views about the impact on their communities of immigration , and the actions of second generations British citizens delivering terror on the very streets that has provided them and their families a better life when seeking asylum .

    It does seem immigration hatred and its impact ,racism , non inclusiveness is all around us .
    I know you're sensitive so I wouldn't normally say this, but what an absolutely bullshit take that is.

    No one can compare the US president publicly telling elected representatives to go back to the crime infested places they came from people talking in the pub about terrorists.

    I don't expect lifeonmars/walesbales/ronnie to, but surely everyone else can recognise that all this is potentially the beginning of a very dark chapter in America's history. We have to hope the worst doesn't happen from hereon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I know you're sensitive so I wouldn't normally say this, but what an absolutely bullshit take that is.

    No one can compare the US president publicly telling elected representatives to go back to the crime infested places they came from people talking in the pub about terrorists.

    I don't expect lifeonmars/walesbales/ronnie to, but surely everyone else can recognise that all this is potentially the beginning of a very dark chapter in America's history. We have to hope the worst doesn't happen from hereon.
    The " go home " rhetoric he spouts is everywhere , and I'm fully aware of the harm it will do there and here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    I think he's deliberately provoking a democrat reaction in defence of these females ,who are pretty universally unpopular in the United States of America , thus associating the democrats with these unpopular creatures.
    You must understand that people in America are not yet conditioned to defend all Islamic stuff in the way that British people are.
    Trump has played a blinder here, it's all political theatre, and just another excuse for the resident lefties to indulge in their favourite pastime of virtue signaling. His original tweet said if they hate America so much, they should go and fix another country and then COME BACK and show them how they did it, i.e. they just complain and don't do anything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I know you're sensitive so I wouldn't normally say this, but what an absolutely bullshit take that is.

    No one can compare the US president publicly telling elected representatives to go back to the crime infested places they came from people talking in the pub about terrorists.

    I don't expect lifeonmars/walesbales/ronnie to, but surely everyone else can recognise that all this is potentially the beginning of a very dark chapter in America's history. We have to hope the worst doesn't happen from hereon.
    Trump has destroyed the leftist argument, end of story. Nancy Pelosi is livid!

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