The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

Trump admitted to the thing he was accused of as well, so, once again, I ask why is one an "attempted coup" and not the other one?

He was well within his rights to ask the Ukrainian president to investigate corruption as there is an anti-corruption agreement between both countries, which incidentally is now underway in Ukraine.

[the other bob wilson]

He was well within his rights to ask the Ukrainian president to investigate corruption as there is an anti-corruption agreement between both countries, which incidentally is now underway in Ukraine.

Yeah, of course he was. Oh well, I tried, but I knew all along I would not get a straight answer from you - no one ever does

[Wales-Bales]

Yeah, of course he was. Oh well, I tried, but I knew all along I would not get a straight answer from you - no one ever does

Facts are facts, even if you don't want them to be facts. Ukraine are now officially investigating Burisma Holdings whether you like it or not. How much straighter do you want my answer to be?

[the other bob wilson]

Facts are facts, even if you don't want them to be facts. Ukraine are now officially investigating Burisma Holdings whether you like it or not. How much straighter do you want my answer to be?

So, this is an anti corruption deal whereby the American President is required to withhold Congress approved military aid payments to Ukraine as a part of the procedure and demand that one of his political opponents' sons be investigated by them before said investigation can take place is it? I see, but the thought does strike me that it's all a complicated for a deal whereby two countries are co-operating isn't it? I find your use of the word "now" in your last messages interesting.

[Wales-Bales]

So, this is an anti corruption deal whereby the American President is required to withhold Congress approved military aid payments to Ukraine as a part of the procedure and demand that one of his political opponents' sons be investigated by them before said investigation can take place is it? I see, but the thought does strike me that it's all a complicated for a deal whereby two countries are co-operating isn't it? I find your use of the word "now" in your last messages interesting.

Well, that is the CNN version of events, but it's not the correct version

[the other bob wilson]

Well, that is the CNN version of events, but it's not the correct version

My first post on this subject made it clear that I think both impeachments went entirely along, deeply biased, party lines with more consideration given to that than any objective study of any evidence of wrongdoing. All I was asking is what makes one different from the other to the extent that one was an "attempted coup" and the other wasn't? Your answers in this exchange have only proved what's known already - you are as deeply biased as the politicians on both sides and would be arguing completely differently if Trump had been charged with Clinton's "offence" and vice versa.

[Wales-Bales]

My first post on this subject made it clear that I think both impeachments went entirely along, deeply biased, party lines with more consideration given to that than any objective study of any evidence of wrongdoing. All I was asking is what makes one different from the other to the extent that one was an "attempted coup" and the other wasn't? Your answers in this exchange have only proved what's known already - you are as deeply biased as the politicians on both sides and would be arguing completely differently if Trump had been charged with Clinton's "offence" and vice versa.

An objective study of the evidence in the Trump impeachment trial showed that there wasn't any evidence, it was simply Part Two of the Russia Collusion hoax.