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Thread: The Donald Trump thread

  1. #1241

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'm not watching the crowd, I'm listening to what he is saying The beginning is all about the MSM, he seems to be dissecting their every move.
    Shouldn't he be running the country instead though. What would you think if Carwyn held a rally next week in Lampeter and spent the first 15 minutes having a pop at the Western Mail?

  2. #1242

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Shouldn't he be running the country instead though. What would you think if Carwyn held a rally next week in Lampeter and spent the first 15 minutes having a pop at the Western Mail?
    Are the Western Mail running a campaign to get Carwyn kicked out of the Welsh Assembley?

  3. #1243

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Are the Western Mail running a campaign to get Carwyn kicked out of the Welsh Assembley?
    How about Corbyn and the Rags of Murdoch?
    Did Corbyn spend a disproportionate time of his campaign time sniping at the many undeniably biased British Media establishments, or did he just stand by his word, set his jaw and get on with his agenda in a decisive and positive manner?
    What would you feel about Corbyn if he had spent hour upon hour issuing whining butt-hurt about the biased Media?

    Same with May even (steady on lad ..!), after it went tits up, and she was getting hacked to bits in the press (there was about 3 weeks where she could do no right , and was clearly being undermined) she didn't whine on and on about the media . For better or worse, she tried to take some responsibility and control.

    If words come directly out of sometimes mouth, they have to take responsibility for having uttered those words.

  4. #1244

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    How about Corbyn and the Rags of Murdoch?
    Did Corbyn spend a disproportionate time of his campaign time sniping at the many undeniably biased British Media establishments, or did he just stand by his word, set his jaw and get on with his agenda in a decisive and positive manner?
    What would you feel about Corbyn if he had spent hour upon hour issuing whining butt-hurt about the biased Media?

    Same with May even (steady on lad ..!), after it went tits up, and she was getting hacked to bits in the press, she didn't whine on and on about the media . For better or worse, she tried to take some responsibility and control.

    When words come out of sometimes mouth, they have to take responsibility for having uttered those words.
    Corbyn wasn't in power, and I don't think the press are currently trying to bring down the sitting PM May through blatant lies, so the comparison seems a bit apples and bananas. And to state the obvious, Trump isn't a schooled politician, he's a disrupter and that is what he is doing. It's how he got elected, so I don't think he is going to change his methods anytime soon.

  5. #1245

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Are the Western Mail trying to get Carwyn chucked out of the Welsh Assembley by distorting the truth?
    i think mature and secure politicians who have recently been elected should focus on delivering the promises they made when seeking election and be held accountable if they are unable to deliver. Trump has been in power for eight months. He is still behaving like the election is next week and it is all the media/Democrat/Republican fault. I know the White House is being redecorated but I would start looking in the trash cans for Harry Truman's "The buck stops here" nameplate when he moves back in.

  6. #1246

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    i think mature and secure politicians who have recently been elected should focus on delivering the promises they made when seeking election and be held accountable if they are unable to deliver. Trump has been in power for eight months. He is still behaving like the election is next week and it is all the media/Democrat/Republican fault. I know the White House is being redecorated but I would start looking in the trash cans for Harry Truman's "The buck stops here" nameplate when he moves back in.
    I thought Trump was pivoting left, but it seems it was the Trump of old who spoke last night. If it ever comes out what he was alluding to regarding enemies in Washinton, maybe things will be viewed in a different light. I guess I will have to sit on the fence a bit longer to find out.

  7. #1247

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Corbyn wasn't in power, and I don't think the press are currently trying to bring down the sitting PM May through blatant lies, so the comparison seems a bit apples and bananas. And to state the obvious, Trump isn't a schooled politician, he's a disrupter and that is what he is doing. It's how he got elected, so I don't think he is going to change his methods anytime soon.
    Ah right...

    What is Trump disrupting today then? And why? / who for?

    To the untrained eye , it would just look like he's revisiting old ground (literally) in order to get his c*ck sucked.

    Is he achieving much? Making America great? winning people over? or just being disruptive?

  8. #1248

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Ok just finished watching the Pheonix Speech, it just seemed like a typical Trump speech to me, did I miss something? Why was Lemon having a meltdown?

  9. #1249

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    Ah right...

    What is Trump disrupting today then? And why? / who for?

    To the untrained eye , it would just look like he's revisiting old ground (literally) in order to get his c*ck sucked.

    Is he achieving much? Making America great? winning people over? or just being disruptive?
    He seems to be disrupting the planned media campaigns against him. Like I said I'm still on the fence, waiting for something to happen one way or the other.

  10. #1250

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Ok just finished watching the Pheonix Speech, it just seemed like a typical Trump speech to me, did I miss something? Why was Lemon having a meltdown?
    Because it was a typical Trump speech.

  11. #1251

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Because it was a typical Trump speech.
    Exactly, so why the sudden overdramatic meltdown?

  12. #1252

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Exactly, so why the sudden overdramatic meltdown?
    Because some people don't think the president should be making speeches like that.

    By the way gluey, good to have you back. For a short while it looked like you were wavering in your love for Daddy but normal service is resumed. Great to see

  13. #1253

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Because some people don't think the president should be making speeches like that.
    Yes, I can see the MSM go ballistic every time he calls them out and exposes their lies. It's fun to watch. Each time the hole they are digging for themselves gets bigger.

  14. #1254

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yes, I can see the MSM go ballistic every time he calls them out and exposes their lies. It's fun to watch. Each time the hole they are digging for themselves gets bigger.
    Lots of tall from you about msm lies. Never acknowledge trump's lies. Why's that mate?

  15. #1255

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Lots of tall from you about msm lies. Never acknowledge trump's lies. Why's that mate?
    You must admit the Russian hacking story was a bit of a whopper, followed by Trump's a racist, and now we have Trump is insane

  16. #1256

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You must admit the Russian hacking story was a bit of a whopper, followed by Trump's a racist, and now we have Trump is insane
    We can get on to that later. Why don't you acknowledge trump's lies?

  17. #1257

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tty-damn-scary

    Trump and the nuclear codes.

    Fake news of course. Let's hope.

  18. #1258

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    We can get on to that later. Why don't you acknowledge trump's lies?
    Which lies in particular? As an avid follower of the MSM, you probably believe that everything Trump says is a lie

  19. #1259

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tty-damn-scary

    Trump and the nuclear codes.

    Fake news of course. Let's hope.
    The agenda of the Guardian is most obvious. It's a pity really as we go back a long way. I lost all respect for them when I saw how they treated Corbyn. I'd put them right up there with CNN now.

  20. #1260

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Which lies in particular? As an avid follower of the MSM, you probably believe that everything Trump says is a lie
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-campaign-ral/

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

    Actually, I think his true/mostly true/half true combined rating may have gone up very slightly since the last time I checked.

    http://www.politifact.com/personalit.../?list=speaker

  21. #1261

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-campaign-ral/

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

    Actually, I think his true/mostly true/half true combined rating may have gone up very slightly since the last time I checked.

    http://www.politifact.com/personalit.../?list=speaker
    Expect a link telling you words such as 'msm, fake news, narrative, Soros'

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