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Thread: The Donald Trump thread

  1. #3781

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    This just popped up

    EXCLUSIVE: FBI RAIDS HOME OF WHISTLEBLOWER ON CLINTON FOUNDATION, LAWYER SAYS

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/f...inton-uranium/
    GRASSLEY DEMANDS ANSWERS FROM WRAY OVER RAID OF WHISTLEBLOWER ON CLINTON FOUNDATION

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/03/g...leblower-raid/

  2. #3782

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I said targeted under the Logan Act, he was unmasked and it was leaked to journalists.
    Targetted by people with no prosecutive powers, wow! Anyway he did plead guilty to making materially false statements to the FBI. Furthermore despite wild rantings about the FBI changing statements it would appear that Flynn decided the best action open to him was to fully co-operate with Mueller rather than challenge the process as illegal and misleading.

    As someone who I know only forms conclusions on the basis of painstaking reviews of official documents why do you believe the version of events you have aired today and on other occasions rather than the official document filed with the court seeking mitigating sentencing due to Flynn's co-operation in giving first hand evidence of Trump transition team "interactions" with Russian government officials and his substantial assistance in a criminal investigation.

    ps - have read the Treehouse version of events which incredibly mirrors your original argument.

  3. #3783

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Donald still has the respect of everyone.





    "Which is the one that matters"

  4. #3784

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Targetted by people with no prosecutive powers, wow! Anyway he did plead guilty to making materially false statements to the FBI. Furthermore despite wild rantings about the FBI changing statements it would appear that Flynn decided the best action open to him was to fully co-operate with Mueller rather than challenge the process as illegal and misleading.

    As someone who I know only forms conclusions on the basis of painstaking reviews of official documents why do you believe the version of events you have aired today and on other occasions rather than the official document filed with the court seeking mitigating sentencing due to Flynn's co-operation in giving first hand evidence of Trump transition team "interactions" with Russian government officials and his substantial assistance in a criminal investigation.

    ps - have read the Treehouse version of events which incredibly mirrors your original argument.
    I hope the redacted bits are explosive as you think they are, otherwise you will look like a sycophant

  5. #3785

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I hope the redacted bits are explosive as you think they are, otherwise you will look like a sycophant
    Who provided the glue between these three quotes do you think?

    1) M.Flynn guilty just rewards for lying to the President. It shows Trump made the right decision to fire him.

    2) Very likely FBI changed the interview 302s which means that Flynn is going to walk and sue their sorry asses.

    3) ps Charges against Flynn will be dropped!

  6. #3786

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Who provided the glue between these three quotes do you think?

    1) M.Flynn guilty just rewards for lying to the President. It shows Trump made the right decision to fire him.

    2) Very likely FBI changed the interview 302s which means that Flynn is going to walk and sue their sorry asses.

    3) ps Charges against Flynn will be dropped!
    Trump firing Flynn had nothing to do with the Mueller investigation. If it transpires that the 302's were altered, of course the charges will be annulled and compensation sought. You are really trying a bit too hard to defend all of these people. I hope it works out well for your kind of people, so that you don't become forever tainted by them

  7. #3787

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Trump firing Flynn had nothing to do with the Mueller investigation. If it transpires that the 302's were altered, of course the charges will be annulled and compensation sought. You are really trying a bit too hard to defend all of these people. I hope it works out well for your kind of people, so that you don't become forever tainted by them
    So let me get this right. The conspiracist theory that the interview notes were changed has been around for over 6 months. Yet in that period neither Flynn nor his legal team has done anything to challenge the charges against him and continued to fully co-operate with Mueller. Strange that.

    Trump's firing Flynn had nothing to do with Mueller? I guess neither did Donny asking Comey to "give him a break" then (cf Rudy Guliani ABC News)!

  8. #3788

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  9. #3789

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So let me get this right. The conspiracist theory that the interview notes were changed has been around for over 6 months. Yet in that period neither Flynn nor his legal team has done anything to challenge the charges against him and continued to fully co-operate with Mueller. Strange that.

    Trump's firing Flynn had nothing to do with Mueller? I guess neither did Donny asking Comey to "give him a break" then (cf Rudy Guliani ABC News)!

  10. #3790

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The appearance of a bunch of Fox aligned Butwhataboutists talking about Mueller saying Flynn was helpful must be of great comfort to Butwhataboutists everywhere in these troubling times.

  11. #3791

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    The appearance of a bunch of Fox aligned Butwhataboutists talking about Mueller saying Flynn was helpful must be of great comfort to Butwhataboutists everywhere in these troubling times.
    She is a real journalist who has actually spotted a real crime!

  12. #3792

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    She is a real journalist who has actually spotted a real crime!
    What's the real crime?

  13. #3793

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    What's the real crime?
    Not the ones Flynn, Manafort. Papa what’s his name are guilty of apparently .....😃

  14. #3794

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Former H.W. Bush Attorney General William Barr is leading candidate to lead Justice Department

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...te/2228091002/

  15. #3795

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Not the ones Flynn, Manafort. Papa what’s his name are guilty of apparently .....��
    Leaking classified information is a 10 year stretch in jail.

  16. #3796

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Leaking classified information is a 10 year stretch in jail.
    What do you think the real crime is with classified information being leaked to this journalist?

    https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/41...isa-abuses-yet

  17. #3797

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    Over on twitter Trumpy having a major hissy fit.

    Spelling by as bye too.

    Who’s getting indicted next for him to be so vexed then?

  18. #3798

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Over on twitter Trumpy having a major hissy fit.

    Spelling by as bye too.

    Who’s getting indicted next for him to be so vexed then?
    Took him an hour to write those five tweets - one every 10-12 minutes and then a big push of 20 minutes to get the last one done.

  19. #3799

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Over on twitter Trumpy having a major hissy fit.

    Spelling by as bye too.

    Who’s getting indicted next for him to be so vexed then?
    Wow, truth bombs dropping all over the place

  20. #3800

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Fox News, definitely not a state propaganda media outlet remember, send their two most high profile presenters to go on stage with Trump at his final rally before election day.
    Trump hires someone he saw on Fox as UN ambassador - Heather Nauert, former Fox presenter.

  21. #3801

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Former H.W. Bush Attorney General William Barr is leading candidate to lead Justice Department

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...te/2228091002/
    William Barr it is.

  22. #3802

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Trump hires someone he saw on Fox as UN ambassador - Heather Nauert, former Fox presenter.
    Latterly the State Department spokesperson, and one of the worse liars I've seen/heard.

    By the way, was you kidding about that Holly piece? She's a bit of fluff whose only talent is reading from an autocue FFS.

  23. #3803

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Took him an hour to write those five tweets - one every 10-12 minutes and then a big push of 20 minutes to get the last one done.
    Apparently Donny is now producing a Counter-Report. Presumably to reinforce all the things that Mueller didn't find in the investigation and subsequent report that completely exonerates him, his family and his made men (sorry associates) from any wrongdoing whatsoever.

  24. #3804

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Only took him 8 tweets to remember it’s anniversary of Pear Harbour and then he included a photo of himself in it.

    As egotistical self absorbed arseholes go he’s world champion.

  25. #3805

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Only took him 8 tweets to remember it’s anniversary of Pear Harbour and then he included a photo of himself in it.

    As egotistical self absorbed arseholes go he’s world champion.
    I remember Pear Harbour. Wasn't there a Conference there?

  26. #3806

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    William Barr it is.
    From Wikipedia:

    2016 Election and Trump administration

    Barr believed that then Republican candidate Donald J. Trump's calls for investigating Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate for President, were not inappropriate. He told The New York Times that "there is nothing inherently wrong about a president calling for an investigation. Although an investigation shouldn’t be launched just because a president wants it, the ultimate question is whether the matter warrants investigation."

    In the same Times piece, Barr added that an investigation into the Uranium One controversy was more important than looking into whether Trump conspired with Russia: “To the extent it is not pursuing these matters, the department is abdicating its responsibility.” Elsewhere, Barr has commented that “I don’t think all this stuff about throwing [Hillary Clinton] in jail or jumping to the conclusion that she should be prosecuted is appropriate.But I do think that there are things that should be investigated that haven’t been investigated.”

  27. #3807

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    It looks like Mueller now needs to find a knockout punch.

  28. #3808

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Latterly the State Department spokesperson, and one of the worse liars I've seen/heard.

    By the way, was you kidding about that Holly piece? She's a bit of fluff whose only talent is reading from an autocue FFS.
    And fair play you must come across some pretty unconvincing liars on a diet of Russia Today and the other (not The Matrix, definitely not The Matrix) media of your choice so Nauert must be a quite a piece of work.

  29. #3809

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It looks like Mueller now needs to find a knockout punch.
    Why?

  30. #3810

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Why?
    Trump's been doing the old rope-a-dope trick, and he's got all the relevant documents waiting to be declassified. Those tweets earlier on were brutal. Mueller has to come up with something quite substantial to stay in the game.

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