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  1. #1

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The lady said it herself.
    Incorrect.

    What do you think about Roy Moore's lies? See post 1900 in case you missed it on this page while you were replying to the other posts.

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    Moore and his media and political cronies are pursuing the discredit one bit and that casts doubt on the totality strategy with some success as it will bring along those who want to believe in his innocence.

    For what it is worth the NYT article has a shot of the inscription. Clearly two different sets of handwriting. If the lady did the latter who does WB think forged the former?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/u...on-allred.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Moore and his media and political cronies are pursuing the discredit one bit and that casts doubt on the totality strategy with some success as it will bring along those who want to believe in his innocence.

    For what it is worth the NYT article has a shot of the inscription. Clearly two different sets of handwriting. If the lady did the latter who does WB think forged the former?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/u...on-allred.html
    She changed her story from writing all of it to a part of it, hence her credibility is in question. She made these claims while sitting next to a lawyer who congress want to speak to about this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    She changed her story from writing all of it to a part of it, hence her credibility is in question. She made these claims while sitting next to a lawyer who congress want to speak to about this matter.
    Nine women have said that Mr. Moore made unwanted advances toward them, or worse, when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s, and in trying to discredit them, the Moore campaign has focused on challenging the veracity of Ms. Nelson and the yearbook inscription. The apparent difference in the lettering of the inscription has spawned weeks of amateur analyses and conspiracy theories, and has led Mr. Moore to repeatedly suggest the yearbook was a fake.

    Reasonable summary of where we are and views previously and currently expressed in this thread I thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Nine women have said that Mr. Moore made unwanted advances toward them, or worse, when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s, and in trying to discredit them, the Moore campaign has focused on challenging the veracity of Ms. Nelson and the yearbook inscription. The apparent difference in the lettering of the inscription has spawned weeks of amateur analyses and conspiracy theories, and has led Mr. Moore to repeatedly suggest the yearbook was a fake.

    Reasonable summary of where we are and views previously and currently expressed in this thread I thought!
    A person who worked at the restaurant during the same time-period said they didn't recall Nelson being a staff member, and I believe somebody from the courthouse who was a regular visitor said he knew Moore but never saw him here. Clearly they need to start a civil court action and put all these witnesses before a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    A person who worked at the restaurant during the same time-period said they didn't recall Nelson being a staff member, and I believe somebody from the courthouse who was a regular visitor said he knew Moore but never saw him here. Clearly they need to start a civil court action and put all these witnesses before a judge.
    Same question as before. Who do you believe? Moore or the nine women? I'm with the ladies and the Republican Senator for Alabama has cast his vote against Moore and questioned his fitness. It is possible to support Trump's general philosophy whilst still being able to call out despicable morally hypercritical scum like Moore and Weinstein on a case by case basis you know!

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Same question as before. Who do you believe? Moore or the nine women? I'm with the ladies and the Republican Senator for Alabama has cast his vote against Moore and questioned his fitness. It is possible to support Trump's general philosophy whilst still being able to call out despicable morally hypercritical scum like Moore and Weinstein on a case by case basis you know!
    Like I said Weinstein apologized for his behaviour and he left a paper trail, paid out settlements, etc. There are also many legal proceedings that have recently been filed against him.

    Regarding Moore, you have the changed story regarding yearbook, and Nelson's stepson and ex-boyfriend spoke out against her. Moore also has witnesses who have refutet many of the allegations, so everybody needs to be rigorously cross examined under oath IMO. Let the courts decide, that is the reason why they exist!

    Therefore I am not going to be bullied into declaring a verdict of guilt on someone who I genuinly don't know if they are or not, just to satisfy your feverish hunger to be proven right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    She changed her story from writing all of it to a part of it, hence her credibility is in question. She made these claims while sitting next to a lawyer who congress want to speak to about this matter.
    Roy Moore changed his story, hence his credibility is in question. Oh, we're ignoring that aren't we.

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Incorrect.

    What do you think about Roy Moore's lies? See post 1900 in case you missed it on this page while you were replying to the other posts.
    WB just doesn't want to answer this one. Because he'd look like a hypocrite? We can only speculate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    WB just doesn't want to answer this one. Because he'd look like a hypocrite? We can only speculate.
    If he's guilty then lock him up, along with the members of the organised pedo rings if there are any, but you don't get to play judge and jury lardy even if you think you should. Just look how wrong you have been about the Russians, you have been almost 100% wrong on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If he's guilty then lock him up, along with the members of the organised pedo rings if there are any, but you don't get to play judge and jury lardy even if you think you should. Just look how wrong you have been about the Russians, you have been almost 100% wrong on that one.
    As I said, hypocrite as you're playing judge and jury by dismissing this woman because of what was written in her yearbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    As I said, hypocrite as you're playing judge and jury by dismissing this woman because of what was written in her yearbook.
    I didn't dismantle anything, she did it herself. She stated in a press conference that Moore was responsible for writing the whole message. Then she changed it to some of it. What's next?

  13. #13

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I didn't dismantle anything, she did it herself. She stated in a press conference that Moore was responsible for writing the whole message. Then she changed it to some of it. What's next?
    The question was about Moore changing his story. Why don't you think he's lost credibility?

  14. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The question was about Moore changing his story. Why don't you think he's lost credibility?
    To be honest I haven't been following it all that closely, I just know the accuser tainted her own credibility, which is odd as both times she was sitting next to her attorney, so she must have been advised to do that.

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