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Thread: The Donald Trump thread

  1. #1051

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    The difference between me and WB is that he has always clung on to a small bit of hope that Trump might actually drain the swamp, I have never believed he would, for me to believe he is anything else than another puppet I would have to abandon everything else I believe and I can't do that, I'm sticking with Mr Griffin on this one.
    Not exactly clinging on I am comparing his actions against predicted outcomes, but Trump is a slippery character and he doesn't give much away! I'm glad I'm not up against him, it would do my head in. I feel sorry for Hillary, Soros, Obama, and that lot though, cos they are not facing a conventional political operator here.

  2. #1052

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Don't write cheques you can't cash then, particularly about one of the most gruesome acts imaginable. Your neighbour probably hasn't been cleared of paedophiliac acts in court but do you spread rumours until he has? Because all outcomes there are inconclusive.

    It's not a question of me knowing the cast iron version of events, it's about basic human decency.
    I'm not spreading any rumours. These suspicions came to light through the own words of the people involved. Has it been investigated? FOIA requests haven't come up with any evidence of an investigation. If it were me I would be eager to clear my name through a proper investigation or a public enquiry. Regarding my neighbour, what's he got to do with it? Or are you doing your little strawman arguement thing again?

  3. #1053

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    You surely must have found something regards this pedo story, otherwise you wouldn't refer to it regularly.

    Lardy was asked, apparently in a typically haughty way, earlier whether he had ever looked outside the MSM on the subject

    Now you say that you have nothing conclusive on it either..

    Do you diners of the hallowed flesh ever get to illustrate the conclusion to any af your alt theories?!

    A neutral observer would be bound to ask- Is it all nods, winks, dodgy websites and the perennial '..any time now..
    ?
    nailed it, gluey can pontificate for months. the thread could end on that line

  4. #1054

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    This video of the march looks like it's from a movie or something. Doesn't seem real that it could happen nowadays.

    https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/st...11702132367360

  5. #1055

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not exactly clinging on I am comparing his actions against predicted outcomes, but Trump is a slippery character and he doesn't give much away! I'm glad I'm not up against him, it would do my head in. I feel sorry for Hillary, Soros, Obama, and that lot though, cos they are not facing a conventional political operator here.
    Some would call the unfiltered views of the President of the United States at yesterday's press conference unconventional. I will stick with morally repugnant.

  6. #1056

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'm not spreading any rumours. These suspicions came to light through the own words of the people involved. Has it been investigated? FOIA requests haven't come up with any evidence of an investigation. If it were me I would be eager to clear my name through a proper investigation or a public enquiry. Regarding my neighbour, what's he got to do with it? Or are you doing your little strawman arguement thing again?
    Have they investigated whether a paedophile ring was running from the basement of a pizzeria that has no basement? Let me check.

  7. #1057

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Have they investigated whether a paedophile ring was running from the basement of a pizzeria that has no basement? Let me check.
    That's how the media specifically framed it, Hillary being in the basement of a pizza shop abusing kids. Did those 4 things happen at the same time? Was Hillary in the basement of a pizza restaurant with children? Of course not, it's all semantics, but somehow this is proof that the whole story has been debunked. And what about the perverted Instagram photos with the sick comments? Not one media person brought these imagages up when they interviewed the restaurant owner. What kind of journalism is that? If these people want to put this story to bed, then they need to address these issues. Until then there is going to be an element of doubt in some people's minds.

    BTW the basement is in the other restaurant that he runs two doors away.

  8. #1058

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    This video of the march looks like it's from a movie or something. Doesn't seem real that it could happen nowadays.

    https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/st...11702132367360
    Very movie like, it has high production values. Do you know who filmed and edited it? Also the blood & soil slogan is a reference to the Ukrainian far-right party (see the picture of their leader above with Sen. John McCain)

  9. #1059

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    I haven't seen any real evidence for pizzagate so I don't really comment on it but when you hear stories like on this radio show I just listened to you have to wonder what the hell is going on in this country, this is Samantha Richards a grandmother from Cardiff..
    "We Call Social Services The SS. They Steal & Traffic Our Children. It's Evil."
    Pizzagate is just a label, it's not about pizza or pizza restaurants, it's about the trafficking and abuse of children worldwide.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not exactly clinging on I am comparing his actions against predicted outcomes, but Trump is a slippery character and he doesn't give much away! I'm glad I'm not up against him, it would do my head in. I feel sorry for Hillary, Soros, Obama, and that lot though, cos they are not facing a conventional political operator here.
    You know what I mean, we have a slightly different view of him.

  11. #1061

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    You know what I mean, we have a slightly different view of him.
    I'm just keeping an eye on the bugger to see if he does what he said he was going to do. All of these outcomes are measurable.

  12. #1062

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Very movie like, it has high production values. Do you know who filmed and edited it? Also the blood & soil slogan is a reference to the Ukrainian far-right party (see the picture of their leader above with Sen. John McCain)
    I think you will find that it predates the Ukranians by several decades. More old Nazi than neo!

  13. #1063

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'm just keeping an eye on the bugger to see if he does what he said he was going to do. All of these outcomes are measurable.
    Really - what will the swamp look like when it is drained for example?

  14. #1064

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    This video of the march looks like it's from a movie or something. Doesn't seem real that it could happen nowadays.

    https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/st...11702132367360
    The production values on that are very slick indeed, and it has been skilfully edited for maximum attraction to those who are weak enough to get taken up by it.
    So maybe there is an interesting angle - who is doing this, and/or for whom ?

    I keep returning to the notion that 'somebody' wants the USA f*cked up - resorting to serious civil unrest, while it also has serious international concerns and dangers, and while loose cannon Trump is at the helm.
    Who? Well..

    It's a heady cocktail of dangers.

    The USA (/the West?) may be in trouble.

  15. #1065

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I think you will find that it predates the Ukranians by several decades. More old Nazi than neo!
    Yes I know, but it was last used to good effect in the Ukraine. BTW what's McCain's angle in all of this? I know Victoria Nuland was involved in the Ukrainian government overthrow when she was the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs.

  16. #1066

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    The production values on that are very slick indeed, and it has been skilfully edited for maximum attraction to those who are weak enough to get taken up by it.
    So maybe there is an interesting angle - who is doing this, and/or for whom ?

    I keep returning to the notion that 'somebody' wants the USA f*cked up - resorting to serious civil unrest, while it also has serious international concerns and dangers, and while loose cannon Trump is at the helm.
    Who? Well..

    It's a heady cocktail of dangers.

    The USA (/the West?) may be in trouble.
    The USA, and by extension the European Union. One name keeps popping up in all of this, George Soros.

  17. #1067

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yes I know, but it was last used to good effect in the Ukraine. BTW what's McCain's angle in all of this? I know Victoria Nuland was involved in the Ukrainian government overthrow when she was the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs.
    Whilst it is no doubt interesting to disappear down every rabbit hole and cul-de-sac you offer up as sport the focus of this thread is Trump. Yesterday, without the intervention of "MSM or fake news media" he spoke directly to the US people and the world in (in my view you might differ) a way that was morally repugnant. It followed direct examples of mysogyny and impressions of disabled people. Personally I don't care if he is in bed with the Russians. He is just a disgraceful human being who for some reason is in the most powerful post in the western democratic world.

  18. #1068

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Whilst it is no doubt interesting to disappear down every rabbit hole and cul-de-sac you offer up as sport the focus of this thread is Trump. Yesterday, without the intervention of "MSM or fake news media" he spoke directly to the US people and the world in (in my view you might differ) a way that was morally repugnant. It followed direct examples of mysogyny and impressions of disabled people. Personally I don't care if he is in bed with the Russians. He is just a disgraceful human being who for some reason is in the most powerful post in the western democratic world.
    That is how I feel, and partly why I enjoy Trumps regular embarrassments and fails.
    I cannot see how a sane person with any moral fibre can ignore his utter crass c*ntishness.
    But I accept that perhaps I'm being led by the nose.

  19. #1069

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Whilst it is no doubt interesting to disappear down every rabbit hole and cul-de-sac you offer up as sport the focus of this thread is Trump. Yesterday, without the intervention of "MSM or fake news media" he spoke directly to the US people and the world in (in my view you might differ) a way that was morally repugnant. It followed direct examples of mysogyny and impressions of disabled people. Personally I don't care if he is in bed with the Russians. He is just a disgraceful human being who for some reason is in the most powerful post in the western democratic world.
    Or he may have been speaking out against a Soros instigated socialist/globalist attempted coup? Anyway, I'm going to stay sitting firmly on the fence, it's a lovely view from up here, and there are still many things that we do not know

  20. #1070

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Or he may have been speaking out against a Soros instigated socialist/globalist attempted coup? Anyway, I'm going to stay sitting firmly on the fence, it's a lovely view from up here, and there are still many things that we do not know
    I very much suspect that Don Quixote is going to continue to be be way, way less smart than you hope he might be.

  21. #1071

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    I very much suspect that Don Quixote is going to continue to be be way, way less smart than you hope he might be.
    Something is most definately up. Terry May refused to speak out against Trump today. I presume she is in the loop. I have a feeling that something is not quite right. I think Trump has surrounded himself with military top brass for a reason.

  22. #1072

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Something is most definately up. Terry May refused to speak out against Trump today. I presume she is in the loop. I have a feeling that something is not quite right. I think Trump has surrounded himself with military top brass for a reason.
    She's clinging onto him as post brexit she'll be desperate for any friend.

  23. #1073

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    Bingo!

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 7h
    Kim Jong Un of North Korea made a very wise and well reasoned decision. The alternative would have been both catastrophic and unacceptable!

  24. #1074

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    She's clinging onto him as post brexit she'll be desperate for any friend.
    Either that, or she knows shit is about to go down

  25. #1075

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    nailed it, gluey can pontificate for months. the thread could end on that line
    I will make one prediction especially for you. Trump is going to go down as either the greatest President in US history, or the worst. He will not occupy any other position.

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