The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

How can he create them when:
(A) they’ve done it
(B) they’ve pleaded guilty

Done what? They are process crimes with no connection to Russia Collusion.

[lardy]

How can he create them when:
(A) they’ve done it
(B) they’ve pleaded guilty

I'm finding it hard to get off the fence on this one.

On one hand, we have evidence presented to court, convictions and guilty please. On the other, a serial fantasist announces that it's all made up.

Which is the real truth? Such a tough one.

[Wales-Bales]

I'm finding it hard to get off the fence on this one.

On one hand, we have evidence presented to court, convictions and guilty please. On the other, a serial fantasist announces that it's all made up.

Which is the real truth? Such a tough one.

Never heard of a perjury trap before? Thought not, and that explains why you are so clueless regarding this entire topic If any collusion took place, which is the purpose of the investigation, then you would to charge somebody with collusion. They haven't.

[CardiffIrish2]

Done what? They are process crimes with no connection to Russia Collusion.

But they’re still crimes. They are criminals (those that have been convicted).
I haven’t brought up collusion merely pointing out there have been criminal convictions due to this investigation.
I wouldn’t rule our further convictions either by the looks.

[Wales-Bales]

But they’re still crimes. They are criminals (those that have been convicted).
I haven’t brought up collusion merely pointing out there have been criminal convictions due to this investigation.
I wouldn’t rule our further convictions either by the looks.

They mixed-up some dates after being cross-questioned for days. Answer this, why was there no mention of Cohen making the collusion deal in Prague? This was a central allegation in the Steele dossier that was used to obtain FISA warrants on members of Trump's campaign team. Without authenticating the dossier there is no Trump Russia Collusion.

[the other bob wilson]

But they’re still crimes. They are criminals (those that have been convicted).
I haven’t brought up collusion merely pointing out there have been criminal convictions due to this investigation.
I wouldn’t rule our further convictions either by the looks.

I think Russia Collusion crimes count double don't they?

[CardiffIrish2]

They mixed-up some dates after being cross-questioned for days. Answer this, why was there no mention of Cohen making the collusion deal in Prague? This was a central allegation in the Steele dossier that was used to obtain FISA warrants on members of Trump's campaign team. Without authenticating the dossier there is no Trump Russia Collusion.

As you’re hard of hearing or ignoring things I will have to type this out again.

As someone with previous experience of investigations arhiugh someone maybe investigated for one prior matter if evidence comes to hand of other criminal offences then those people get charged.

Not only charged but if they plead guilty that get convicted.

Then they are criminals.

Should they have recourse to appeal then I’m sure that option is available.

I’m not sure why you find it so hard to believe but those are the facts and you can throw in your blatant bias, your perception that nobody in Trump’s circle has done anything wrong but the facts are showing themselves that a number of people connected to him have committed criminal behaviour.

Before you comeback with your latest theory derived from whatever right wing website on twitter you’ve found I have not mentioned that they have been found linked to collusion but this investigation is justifying itself in terms of finding criminal behaviour.

[Wales-Bales]

As you’re hard of hearing or ignoring things I will have to type this out again.

As someone with previous experience of investigations arhiugh someone maybe investigated for one prior matter if evidence comes to hand of other criminal offences then those people get charged.

Not only charged but if they plead guilty that get convicted.

Then they are criminals.

Should they have recourse to appeal then I’m sure that option is available.

I’m not sure why you find it so hard to believe but those are the facts and you can throw in your blatant bias, your perception that nobody in Trump’s circle has done anything wrong but the facts are showing themselves that a number of people connected to him have committed criminal behaviour.

Before you comeback with your latest theory derived from whatever right wing website on twitter you’ve found I have not mentioned that they have been found linked to collusion but this investigation is justifying itself in terms of finding criminal behaviour.

I never said they haven't done anything wrong. I'm just pointing out the fact that the Russian collusion investigation hasn't found any evidence of Russian collusion. What they have done is dig up 10 year old tax issues and prosecute people for getting dates wrong, but no Russian collusion, which is what the investigation is supposed to be about.

[Heathblue]

I never said they haven't done anything wrong. I'm just pointing out the fact that the Russian collusion investigation hasn't found any evidence of Russian collusion. What they have done is dig up 10 year old tax issues and prosecute people for getting dates wrong, but no Russian collusion, which is what the investigation is supposed to be about.

There are still those who believe that he's a white hat, read a very good article to back this view earlier, i still think he's DS, the latest Cohen stuff is going nowhere IMO, 3 whistle-blowers now for the CF, is Daddy Bush a distraction to next weeks hearings ?, Pence being pictured with a Broward county sheriff wearing a Q badge, then deleting his tweet maximising publicity, the hatchet job on trump jnr exposed in hours with the news outlet being forced to double back, the 1st Huber leak which appears to have pissed off the internet conspiracy group know as Q with an order of no more leaking , smoke and mirrors, diss information is necessary an all that FISA brings the house down apparently it's all shit i know but its better than reading about bloody Brexit 24/7 BTW Daddy Bush will still be voting Democrat in 2020

[lardy]

There are still those who believe that he's a white hat, read a very good article to back this view earlier, i still think he's DS, the latest Cohen stuff is going nowhere IMO, 3 whistle-blowers now for the CF, is Daddy Bush a distraction to next weeks hearings ?, Pence being pictured with a Broward county sheriff wearing a Q badge, then deleting his tweet maximising publicity, the hatchet job on trump jnr exposed in hours with the news outlet being forced to double back, the 1st Huber leak which appears to have pissed off the internet conspiracy group know as Q with an order of no more leaking , smoke and mirrors, diss information is necessary an all that FISA brings the house down apparently it's all shit i know but its better than reading about bloody Brexit 24/7 BTW Daddy Bush will still be voting Democrat in 2020

Are you here to make Gluey look sane?

[Wales-Bales]

Are you here to make Gluey look sane?

Says the No.1 Trump Russia Collusion conspiracy theorist

[Mrs Steve R]

Are you here to make Gluey look sane?

People are not insane just because they don't think like you, just saying.

[lardy]

Sorry for offending you, mrs R. From now on I'll believe everything I read.

Yes, I think the death of the frail 94 year old president with a long term illness was intended as a distraction to next weeks hearings.

[CardiffIrish2]

There are still those who believe that he's a white hat, read a very good article to back this view earlier, i still think he's DS, the latest Cohen stuff is going nowhere IMO, 3 whistle-blowers now for the CF, is Daddy Bush a distraction to next weeks hearings ?, Pence being pictured with a Broward county sheriff wearing a Q badge, then deleting his tweet maximising publicity, the hatchet job on trump jnr exposed in hours with the news outlet being forced to double back, the 1st Huber leak which appears to have pissed off the internet conspiracy group know as Q with an order of no more leaking , smoke and mirrors, diss information is necessary an all that FISA brings the house down apparently it's all shit i know but its better than reading about bloody Brexit 24/7 BTW Daddy Bush will still be voting Democrat in 2020

When you say latest Cohen stuff going nowhere what does that mean?

I mean after all he’s just been convicted of a criminal offence which would suggest that in regards to himself he’s found himself in a bit of bother and not exactly ‘going nowhere’

[Heathblue]

When you say latest Cohen stuff going nowhere what does that mean?

I mean after all he’s just been convicted of a criminal offence which would suggest that in regards to himself he’s found himself in a bit of bother and not exactly ‘going nowhere’

The clue is the 125 page thread on a certain individual, and not about Cohen, Perhaps I got it wrong again but the investigation by Mueller was to establish that the Russians colluded with the Thump campaign to influence the election. 30 odd million dollars later Mueller has managed to indict 30 odd Russians who will never testify, Individuals in the Thump Campaign of various felonies of which I understand were committed before the campaign, and a ham sandwich, but as of today there is no smoking gun, 30 odd million dollars has been so well spent, that the about query of the NSA database gave them the wrong Cohen who went to Prague and the complicit MSM were so quick to get it in print they couldn't walk it back, I tend to agree with OM, they are all swamp creatures, all crooks and all devoid of any humanity, it's all about one set of wrong uns trying to get another set of wrong uns. I don't think that this will end well for the Democratic party and I don't think that Trump will see out the 4 years either, the election was a toss up between two terrible individuals, we could end up soon with the same scenario, May V Corbyn, for me both of them unelectable but one of them has to be, I don't see a rising star in the Labour party and the last few months would have been the ideal opportunity for someone in the party to put their potential stamp on the party and take it forward. Corbyn has a fanatical base, but his base isn't going to be big enough to carry the election IMO, we could be heading for a Boris led Tory government, I find that quite disturbing. To repeat, IMO the Cohen stuff is going nowhere in the context of this thread.

[Wales-Bales]

The clue is the 125 page thread on a certain individual, and not about Cohen, Perhaps I got it wrong again but the investigation by Mueller was to establish that the Russians colluded with the Thump campaign to influence the election. 30 odd million dollars later Mueller has managed to indict 30 odd Russians who will never testify, Individuals in the Thump Campaign of various felonies of which I understand were committed before the campaign, and a ham sandwich, but as of today there is no smoking gun, 30 odd million dollars has been so well spent, that the about query of the NSA database gave them the wrong Cohen who went to Prague and the complicit MSM were so quick to get it in print they couldn't walk it back, I tend to agree with OM, they are all swamp creatures, all crooks and all devoid of any humanity, it's all about one set of wrong uns trying to get another set of wrong uns. I don't think that this will end well for the Democratic party and I don't think that Trump will see out the 4 years either, the election was a toss up between two terrible individuals, we could end up soon with the same scenario, May V Corbyn, for me both of them unelectable but one of them has to be, I don't see a rising star in the Labour party and the last few months would have been the ideal opportunity for someone in the party to put their potential stamp on the party and take it forward. Corbyn has a fanatical base, but his base isn't going to be big enough to carry the election IMO, we could be heading for a Boris led Tory government, I find that quite disturbing. To repeat, IMO the Cohen stuff is going nowhere in the context of this thread.

They have a lot to say, but they can't even explain what the collusion was. I'd be happy to accept it happened if somebody could only tell me who did what.

[lardy]

The clue is the 125 page thread on a certain individual, and not about Cohen, Perhaps I got it wrong again but the investigation by Mueller was to establish that the Russians colluded with the Thump campaign to influence the election. 30 odd million dollars later Mueller has managed to indict 30 odd Russians who will never testify, Individuals in the Thump Campaign of various felonies of which I understand were committed before the campaign, and a ham sandwich, but as of today there is no smoking gun, 30 odd million dollars has been so well spent, that the about query of the NSA database gave them the wrong Cohen who went to Prague and the complicit MSM were so quick to get it in print they couldn't walk it back, I tend to agree with OM, they are all swamp creatures, all crooks and all devoid of any humanity, it's all about one set of wrong uns trying to get another set of wrong uns. I don't think that this will end well for the Democratic party and I don't think that Trump will see out the 4 years either, the election was a toss up between two terrible individuals, we could end up soon with the same scenario, May V Corbyn, for me both of them unelectable but one of them has to be, I don't see a rising star in the Labour party and the last few months would have been the ideal opportunity for someone in the party to put their potential stamp on the party and take it forward. Corbyn has a fanatical base, but his base isn't going to be big enough to carry the election IMO, we could be heading for a Boris led Tory government, I find that quite disturbing. To repeat, IMO the Cohen stuff is going nowhere in the context of this thread.

The Mueller investigation was set up to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. Any interests that Trump's team has had with Russia are coming out in the wash. "Collusion" is not actually a thing, that's why I don't use the word.

[Wales-Bales]

The Mueller investigation was set up to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. Any interests that Trump's team has had with Russia are coming out in the wash. "Collusion" is not actually a thing, that's why I don't use the word.

What things are coming out in the wash?

[Heathblue]

The Mueller investigation was set up to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. Any interests that Trump's team has had with Russia are coming out in the wash. "Collusion" is not actually a thing, that's why I don't use the word.

Probably open to interpretation

The investigation includes any possible links etc. etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specia...(2017–present)

[Wales-Bales]

Probably open to interpretation

The investigation includes any possible links etc. etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specia...#8211;present)

How many undercover operatives infiltrated the Trump campaign team?

[lardy]

Probably open to interpretation

The investigation includes any possible links etc. etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specia...(2017–present)

Yes, it includes that. It was set up to look at Russian interference in favour of Republican (Trump), Democrat (Sanders) and Green (Stein) nominees.

Unfortunately for the fanboys, it looks very much like it was Team Trump that grasped it with both hands, which is where "collusion" comes in.

[lardy]

Everyone in the room is definitely laughing with Donald as he wanders off stage (chased by an aide).

Oh my lord.

Trump just wandered right off the stage, leaving the Argentinian president all by himself.

A staffer is then observed attempting to stop and retrieve Trump.

Ladies and gentlemen... Donald Trump.

pic.twitter.com/JhZpKFfiZG

— TOᑭ ᖇOᑭE TᖇAViS (@TopRopeTravis) December 1, 2018

[CardiffIrish2]

Everyone in the room is definitely laughing with Donald as he wanders off stage (chased by an aide).

Oh my lord.

Trump just wandered right off the stage, leaving the Argentinian president all by himself.

A staffer is then observed attempting to stop and retrieve Trump.

Ladies and gentlemen... Donald Trump.

pic.twitter.com/JhZpKFfiZG

— TOᑭ ᖇOᑭE TᖇAViS (@TopRopeTravis) December 1, 2018

Grandad! Grandad! Can someone go and get Grandad.....

[CardiffIrish2]

The clue is the 125 page thread on a certain individual, and not about Cohen, Perhaps I got it wrong again but the investigation by Mueller was to establish that the Russians colluded with the Thump campaign to influence the election. 30 odd million dollars later Mueller has managed to indict 30 odd Russians who will never testify, Individuals in the Thump Campaign of various felonies of which I understand were committed before the campaign, and a ham sandwich, but as of today there is no smoking gun, 30 odd million dollars has been so well spent, that the about query of the NSA database gave them the wrong Cohen who went to Prague and the complicit MSM were so quick to get it in print they couldn't walk it back, I tend to agree with OM, they are all swamp creatures, all crooks and all devoid of any humanity, it's all about one set of wrong uns trying to get another set of wrong uns. I don't think that this will end well for the Democratic party and I don't think that Trump will see out the 4 years either, the election was a toss up between two terrible individuals, we could end up soon with the same scenario, May V Corbyn, for me both of them unelectable but one of them has to be, I don't see a rising star in the Labour party and the last few months would have been the ideal opportunity for someone in the party to put their potential stamp on the party and take it forward. Corbyn has a fanatical base, but his base isn't going to be big enough to carry the election IMO, we could be heading for a Boris led Tory government, I find that quite disturbing. To repeat, IMO the Cohen stuff is going nowhere in the context of this thread.

Well I’m in full agreement with you that the thought of a Boris Johnson led govt would be truly ****ing horrendous.

[life on mars]

Donald does it again
Trump freezes new tariffs on Chinese goods in trade war ‘breakthrough’

He has the knack of getting stuff done for his people,ina crude way , bit like North Korea he goes to the brink, and then waits until someone blinks.