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Thread: The Donald Trump thread

  1. #3201
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?

    It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.

    In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.
    'Cohen pleaded guilty to two counts of making contributions in excess of $25,000 for the purpose of influencing a federal election.

    Trump's former lawyer told a federal court on Tuesday that he made two payments, one for $150,000 in the summer of 2016 and another in Oct. 2016 of $130,000, both at the direction of Trump. The payments were to former Playboy model Karen McDougal and adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, both of whom have claimed to have had affairs with Trump. The president has denied those allegations.

    Cohen also filed invoices to the Trump Organization to be reimbursed for those payments, masking them as services rendered for 2017 even though he did not provide legal services to the president that year.

    The crimes carry a maximum sentence of 65 years, but sentencing guidelines recommend 46-63 months of prison time'

    I've highlighted the key points for you. The crime would have apparently been to a lesser degree if they had actually used campaign funds. Trump has now categorically said, on camera, that campaign funds were not used, possibly incriminating himself even further.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...lations-791377

  2. #3202

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    'Cohen pleaded guilty to two counts of making contributions in excess of $25,000 for the purpose of influencing a federal election.

    Trump's former lawyer told a federal court on Tuesday that he made two payments, one for $150,000 in the summer of 2016 and another in Oct. 2016 of $130,000, both at the direction of Trump. The payments were to former Playboy model Karen McDougal and adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, both of whom have claimed to have had affairs with Trump. The president has denied those allegations.

    Cohen also filed invoices to the Trump Organization to be reimbursed for those payments, masking them as services rendered for 2017 even though he did not provide legal services to the president that year.

    The crimes carry a maximum sentence of 65 years, but sentencing guidelines recommend 46-63 months of prison time'

    I've highlighted the key points for you. The crime would have apparently been to a lesser degree if they had actually used campaign funds. Trump has now categorically said, on camera, that campaign funds were not used, possibly incriminating himself even further.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...lations-791377
    So Trump is going to jail for 65 years? Hillary had better dust off her cowboy boots then

    BTW why did Dershowitz say it is perfectly normal to payoff people to avoid damaging publicity, in this case to his wife and family?

    Anyway, the proof of the pudding will be found in a Trump prosecution, if and when it occurs.

    *post bookmarked

  3. #3203
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So Trump is going to jail for 65 years? Hillary had better dust off her cowboy boots then

    BTW why did Dershowitz say it is perfectly normal to payoff people to avoid damaging publicity, in this case to his wife and family?

    Anyway, the proof of the pudding will be found in a Trump prosecution, if and when it occurs.

    *post bookmarked
    Trust you to find the part of the post where you can exaggerate for effect. Nobody is suggesting that, are they?

    Once again, why are you asking me why somebody said something? I'd hazard a guess that the author of a book titled 'The Case Against Impeaching Trump!' may have a horse in the race though... Who knows?

    It's all very exciting though

  4. #3204

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?

    It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.

    In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.
    These cases were never about Russia.

  5. #3205

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?

    I haven’t accused Trump of collusion. That’s down to the investigation that’s being carried out which is still ongoing. What this investigation is showing is that a number of people have committed criminal acts which they deserve to be punished for.


    What I find quite shameful is that a President of the USA is criticising his own judicial system and expressing sympathy for a convicted criminal.

    Not right surely?


    https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/sta...56443985084417

  6. #3206

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control

  7. #3207
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control
    Brilliant

  8. #3208

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control
    Thanks for that 😂😂😂

  9. #3209

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Glad to be of service

  10. #3210

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Oops, missed out, too the sheep bit

  11. #3211

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    These cases were never about Russia.
    Attorney and Clinton advisor Lanny Davis who is representing Michael Cohen pro bono (for free), is co-founder and partner of the law firm of Davis Goldberg & Galper. According to FARA records his firm is a registered ACTIVE foreign agent for Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash, who is a close ally of Russian pres Vladimir Putin and is wanted by the US. Firtash was indicted by a US grand jury for allegedly conspiring to pay millions of dollars in bribes to Indian officials through US banks. He is also a former associate of Paul Manafort!

    These cases were never about Russia? Oh yeah?

  12. #3212
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Oops, missed out, too the sheep bit
    That's deep. "Too the sheep bit". Was that Wordsworth or Keates?

  13. #3213
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Attorney and Clinton advisor Lanny Davis who is representing Michael Cohen pro bono (for free), is co-founder and partner of the law firm of Davis Goldberg & Galper. According to FARA records his firm is a registered ACTIVE foreign agent for Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash, who is a close ally of Russian pres Vladimir Putin and is wanted by the US. Firtash was indicted by a US grand jury for allegedly conspiring to pay millions of dollars in bribes to Indian officials through US banks. He is also a former associate of Paul Manafort!

    These cases were never about Russia? Oh yeah?
    https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanSch...ed-to-putin%2F

    So what?

  14. #3214

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Conflict of interest. He represents a billionaire who would benefit from Trump being removed from office. Why are these people always connected? Or is it just another coincidence?

  15. #3215
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Conflict of interest. He represents a billionaire who would benefit from Trump being removed from office. Why are these people always connected? Or is it just another coincidence?
    How would the "billionaire" benefit from Trump being removed from office?

  16. #3216

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    How would the "billionaire" benefit from Trump being removed from office?
    I'll leave that one for you to work out

  17. #3217
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'll leave that one for you to work out
    No, come on. You said "He represents a billionaire who would benefit from Trump being removed from office."

    How did you work that one out?

  18. #3218

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    No, come on. You said "He represents a billionaire who would benefit from Trump being removed from office."

    How did you work that one out?
    Come on man, you have to up your game a bit

  19. #3219
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Come on man, you have to up your game a bit
    Oh, we're playing this game are we?

    If you're gonna make shit up, like this 'revelation' being important for some reason, at least have the courage in your convictions to follow through with the bullshit.

    'Fake News' again

  20. #3220
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Some actual news today:

    'Donald Trump says 'flipping' "almost ought to be illegal' Trump says 'flipping' in criminal cases should be illegal and warns against impeachment

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...y_to_clipboard

    'Donald Trump's say impeaching him would cause the market to crash'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45285585

    'Donald Trump 'blasts' his AG appointment, Jeff Sessions, for not "taking control" of the Justice Department and rescusing himself from the Russia investigation'

    https://nypost.com/2018/08/23/trump-...f-man-is-this/

    Does this sound like a man who is as confident as Gluey that everything is going to be ok?

    Also...

  21. #3221

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Oh, we're playing this game are we?

    If you're gonna make shit up, like this 'revelation' being important for some reason, at least have the courage in your convictions to follow through with the bullshit.

    'Fake News' again
    The way I see it, all the players on each side have to protect each other. If one domino falls, they all fall. Regarding the Russians, there are plenty involved, they just haven't disclosed who is doing what yet.

  22. #3222

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Some actual news today:

    'Donald Trump says 'flipping' "almost ought to be illegal' Trump says 'flipping' in criminal cases should be illegal and warns against impeachment

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...y_to_clipboard

    'Donald Trump's say impeaching him would cause the market to crash'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45285585

    'Donald Trump 'blasts' his AG appointment, Jeff Sessions, for not "taking control" of the Justice Department and rescusing himself from the Russia investigation'

    https://nypost.com/2018/08/23/trump-...f-man-is-this/

    Does this sound like a man who is as confident as Gluey that everything is going to be ok?

    Also...
    I never said anything is going to be ok, I am just observing the latest developments as things rummble on. It's quite a dirty game that is being played out in front of us, with so many players involved. I don't think anybody can predict the ending.

  23. #3223

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Some actual news today:

    'Donald Trump says 'flipping' "almost ought to be illegal' Trump says 'flipping' in criminal cases should be illegal and warns against impeachment'

    'Donald Trump's say impeaching him would cause the market to crash'

    'Donald Trump 'blasts' his AG appointment, Jeff Sessions, for not "taking control" of the Justice Department and rescusing himself from the Russia investigation'
    Donald Trump says ...


  24. #3224

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control
    It's better than ours, just ask the Hillsborough victims ,we're kings of suppression, can you imagine some form of leader impeachment existing in our systems. 🤣

  25. #3225

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    It's better than ours, just ask the Hillsborough victims ,we're kings of suppression, can you imagine some form of leader impeachment existing in our systems. ��
    They tend to stop the undesirables before they get into office. They tried it with Trump, but some how they managed to fail miserably. That's what this mess is all about, he's now got the keys to the castle and all of the secrets. They need him out a.s.a.p. as he is very dangerous to a lot of people while he sits there in the Oval Office, so expect to see a lot more twisting and turning before we reach any possible outcomes.

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