The Donald Trump thread

[lardy]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...blower-scandal

If the latest reporting is accurate, we know that Donald Trump had a phone call with a foreign leader, during which he made a provocative “promise.” We know a U.S. intelligence official considered the presidential vow alarming and filed a complaint on Aug. 12. We know the intelligence community’s inspector general considered the whistleblower’s complaint credible and urgent.

We know the Trump-appointed acting DNI ignored legal requirements related to congressional disclosure. We know the intelligence community’s inspector general was uncomfortable with the DNI’s decision to ignore the law, and the IG, Michael Atkinson, made the relevant congressional committees aware of the existence of the complaint earlier this month.

We don’t know what, specifically, the president promised one of his foreign counterparts, or to whom he was speaking. There is, however, a limited number of foreign leaders Trump spoke to around the relevant dates, and the Post’s article noted a July 31 phone conversation the Republican had with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

[cyril evans awaydays]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...blower-scandal

If the latest reporting is accurate, we know that Donald Trump had a phone call with a foreign leader, during which he made a provocative “promise.” We know a U.S. intelligence official considered the presidential vow alarming and filed a complaint on Aug. 12. We know the intelligence community’s inspector general considered the whistleblower’s complaint credible and urgent.

We know the Trump-appointed acting DNI ignored legal requirements related to congressional disclosure. We know the intelligence community’s inspector general was uncomfortable with the DNI’s decision to ignore the law, and the IG, Michael Atkinson, made the relevant congressional committees aware of the existence of the complaint earlier this month.

We don’t know what, specifically, the president promised one of his foreign counterparts, or to whom he was speaking. There is, however, a limited number of foreign leaders Trump spoke to around the relevant dates, and the Post’s article noted a July 31 phone conversation the Republican had with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Hmm, Was it:

a) Eastern Ukraine;
b) Greenland (suitable profit margin);
c) Melania or
d) all of the above?

[lardy]

Hmm, Was it:

a) Eastern Ukraine;
b) Greenland (suitable profit margin);
c) Melania or
d) all of the above?

Looks like he asked Ukraine eight times to investigate his political opponent's family in order to help win the forthcoming election. Will this be enough for the democrats to finally act?

[Wales-Bales]

Looks like he asked Ukraine eight times to investigate his political opponent's family in order to help win the forthcoming election. Will this be enough for the democrats to finally act?

Looks like it was initiated by the State Department .. lardy & Cyril always first with the fake news!

I hope they hold that political activist cum "whistleblower" to account for her irresponsible actions.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...erture-to-rudy

[Wales-Bales]

Looks like he asked Ukraine eight times to investigate his political opponent's family in order to help win the forthcoming election. Will this be enough for the democrats to finally act?

Your sources of information are hilariously entertaining though

[the other bob wilson]

Your sources of information are hilariously entertaining though

You dismiss this as hilariously entertaining while treating everything someone with what seems like a questionable reputation writes as the truth, yet again, that fence you are sitting on when it comes to Trump seems to only exist in your imagination.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John...l_commentator)

[jon1959]

Recommended reading:

Trump - Woodward - Fear.jpg Trump - Wolff - Fire and Fury.jpg Trump - Wolff - Siege.jpg


I have just finished the second Wolff book, Siege. Bannon is probably the main source for both his books. Fascinating and shocking - and almost all true, with just a couple of unsourced assertions. The Woodward book is 100% true.

[Wales-Bales]

Recommended reading:

I have just finished the second Wolff book, Siege. Bannon is probably the main source for both his books. Fascinating and shocking - and almost all true, with just a couple of unsourced assertions. The Woodward book is 100% true.

It's about as true as the Steele dossier, which is very true according to lardy

[cyril evans awaydays]

Recommended reading:

Trump - Woodward - Fear.jpg Trump - Wolff - Fire and Fury.jpg Trump - Wolff - Siege.jpg


I have just finished the second Wolff book, Siege. Bannon is probably the main source for both his books. Fascinating and shocking - and almost all true, with just a couple of unsourced assertions. The Woodward book is 100% true.

I guess those law revering, democracy loving, independent thinking, intellectually superior minds would be all over this. Particularly as Inspector General reports and whistle-blowers have been so important in their narrative. Seems I was hasty to completely ignore their views just when deep state are denying an IG and whistleblower transparency to the people.

[Wales-Bales]

I guess those law revering, democracy loving, independent thinking, intellectually superior minds would be all over this. Particularly as Inspector General reports and whistle-blowers have been so important in their narrative. Seems I was hasty to completely ignore their views just when deep state are denying an IG and whistleblower transparency to the people.

Holy flash gordon sue them!

[Wales-Bales]

I guess those law revering, democracy loving, independent thinking, intellectually superior minds would be all over this. Particularly as Inspector General reports and whistle-blowers have been so important in their narrative. Seems I was hasty to completely ignore their views just when deep state are denying an IG and whistleblower transparency to the people.

How your whistle-blower story coming along? At least you haven't spoilt your record of being 100% wrong about everything! lardy & cyril always first with the fake news

[Wales-Bales]

I guess those law revering, democracy loving, independent thinking, intellectually superior minds would be all over this. Particularly as Inspector General reports and whistle-blowers have been so important in their narrative. Seems I was hasty to completely ignore their views just when deep state are denying an IG and whistleblower transparency to the people.

What are you talking about cyril?

[Wales-Bales]

I guess those law revering, democracy loving, independent thinking, intellectually superior minds would be all over this. Particularly as Inspector General reports and whistle-blowers have been so important in their narrative. Seems I was hasty to completely ignore their views just when deep state are denying an IG and whistleblower transparency to the people.

"What about whether or not the whistleblower, or people around the whistleblower, were tied to the folks who opened up the investigation into Trump to begin with? We'll see!"

[Wales-Bales]

I guess those law revering, democracy loving, independent thinking, intellectually superior minds would be all over this. Particularly as Inspector General reports and whistle-blowers have been so important in their narrative. Seems I was hasty to completely ignore their views just when deep state are denying an IG and whistleblower transparency to the people.

"What about whether or not the whistleblower, or people around the whistleblower, were tied to the folks who opened up the investigation into Trump to begin with? We'll see!"

[Wales-Bales]

I guess those law revering, democracy loving, independent thinking, intellectually superior minds would be all over this. Particularly as Inspector General reports and whistle-blowers have been so important in their narrative. Seems I was hasty to completely ignore their views just when deep state are denying an IG and whistleblower transparency to the people.

The Whistleblower has disappeared. Where is the Whistleblower?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 2, 2019

[Wales-Bales]

I think we are in for an exciting few days

CNN's @ChrisCuomo: "Did you ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?"@RudyGiuliani: "Of course I did"

President Trump's attorney says he had spoken with a Ukrainian official about Joe Biden's possible role in that government's dismissal of a prosecutor who investigated Biden's son. pic.twitter.com/hqmqtmx2VW

— Cuomo Prime Time (@CuomoPrimeTime) September 20, 2019

[jon1959]

Trump hair.jpg

[Wales-Bales]

USA, Japan, India, Brazil, UK = global trade reset. China is going to be squeezed economically, and probably the EU too.

[the other bob wilson]

I suppose it has been too quiet these last few hours.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...40f_story.html

[Wales-Bales]

Bad news for some ...

[Wales-Bales]

[life on mars]

Nice conversation, Mr Biden hopes gone as well .

[Wales-Bales]

Nice conversation, Mr Biden hopes gone as well .

The big news is Crowdstrike, it would be dynamite if the new anti-corruption Ukraine administration handed over this information.

[life on mars]

The big news is Crowdstrike, it would be dynamite if the new anti-corruption Ukraine administration handed over this information.

The impeachment inquiry is dangerous for both Trump and the Democrats , neither have clean hands ,crowd strike has connotations for both parties, I'm guessing ?

[Wales-Bales]

The impeachment inquiry is dangerous for both Trump and the Democrats , neither have clean hands ,crowd strike has connotations for both parties, I'm guessing ?

Not really, Trump did nothing wrong. The impeachment plan was based on little more than hearsay. Crowdstrike, were the ones who handled the Clinton email server investigation. The FBI never examined it or read the report, but they declared that it was Russia who hacked the server and stole the emails. Lots of dodgy people involved too. The Ukraine was a big player in the Trump Russia Collusion hoax. Lardy used to post about it a lot!