I see you are still in the game, you just can't give it up can you Mr Trump Russia Collusion propaganda loon!Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
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I see you are still in the game, you just can't give it up can you Mr Trump Russia Collusion propaganda loon!
The US Attorney General is acting as the President's lawyer, the White House is hiding incriminating phone calls on secret servers, getting the NOAA to alter weather reports so Trump isn't embarrassed by being wrong - the list goes on and this bozo is still on about the Deep State
What the hell is Barr investigating then? You do realise that Downer went through a back channel at the US Embassy, thereby bypassing official protocol which the Aussie PM says was very unusual. And that is how Operation Crossfire Hurricane started, in secret via a small group of collaborators.
"A deep state (from Turkish: derin devlet), also known as a state within a state, is a form of clandestine government made up of hidden or covert networks of power operating independently of a state's political leadership, in pursuit of their own agenda and goals. Examples include organs of state, such as the armed forces or public authorities (intelligence agencies, police, secret police, administrative agencies, and government bureaucracy). A deep state can also take the form of entrenched, career civil servants acting in a non-conspiratorial manner, to further their own interests. The intent of a deep state can include continuity of the state itself, job security for its members, enhanced power and authority, and the pursuit of ideological objectives. It can operate in opposition to the agenda of elected officials, by obstructing, resisting, and subverting their policies, conditions and directives. It can also take the form of government-owned corporations or private companies that act independently of regulatory or governmental control."
Or Oprah , Chelsea ??
Now stop that , you can't raise anything naughty , but Trump .
You will be labelled again.
Think you have summed it up very well on both sides of the pond I'd include the collusion of the EU in all this to frustrating Brexit , they know the model is corrupt and failing so does the USA.
Labour simply see it as divide and conquer I don't think they even want power just want disruption, like some little union with a bit of power , going on strike for the few and not the many .
A few years ago you seemed to think he was just a useful idiot and front for the modern day brown shirts you echo, but more recently you have turned the serial liar, sexual predator, narcissist, egocentric, power abusing, thin-skinned ignorant clown into a champion of 'the people'.
Donald Trump has no interest in 'the people'. He is only interested in Donald Trump's bank account and having his ego massaged. He is one of the rich (though not as rich as he claims) and powerful (and more powerful than he should be as a result of his constant abuse of office) that form the real global elite - the ones that are screwing the vast majority of people and poisoning the planet. He is the problem. He certainly is not part of the solution.
This is part of the “flood not dam” model. They want doubt. They can make up a dozen new lies and new distractions every day while there’s only one truth. Stop chasing them and keep repeating the facts.
— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) September 29, 2019
Is is the same deep (shallow) or perhaps cavernous state that is now attacking our Boris , and the 17,5 million UK leave voters ?I see you are still in the game, you just can't give it up can you Mr Trump Russia Collusion propaganda loon!
How is the state (deep. shallow, cavernous or just 'the state') attacking your Boris?
How is the state attacking Leave voters? (not 17.5 million: the Leave figure was 17,410,742 or 51.89% - no need to invent an extra 89,000)
At least half the country is attacking Boris Johnson for what he says and what he does, but the civil service and other parts of the state apparatus are just getting on with whatever job they have been given by this barely functioning government. They are certainly not obstructing him, whatever their personal views.
Maybe you are conflating 'the state' with the legislature and the judiciary - who are making Johnson's life difficult by holding him to account and applying the law?
When will they impeach the fella or is this simply more democratic covert fake news
In response to a tweet by a Russian chess grandmaster you came up with this! I have no idea what this means. Unlikely that you could recall your thought processes but go on...give us a laugh!
TBF, Kasparov is no Bill Bowder.
It's a great narrative. All a democratican plot. They're trying to overthrow the president.
Unfortunately most of the evidence and movement in the intelligence agencies has come from trump appointed republican officials. But let's not let that get in the way of a witch hunt, eh?
Away from the chess masters greatest insight into the political landscape of today , lets just take the simple mutterings of the snakes and ladders north Cardiff champion Fred Lowercase when in 1987 , he say "its all shit, and murky, until the truth is found at the bottom of the ladder , or by the venom of the snake "
These clowns don't even know what the definition of a deep state is, they have been watching too many James Bond movies
What you're describing as 'the deep state' could be from an episode of Yes Minister!These clowns don't even know what the definition of a deep state is, they have been watching too many James Bond movies
They should do after you helpfully posted a definition of it on here yesterday. Having read said definition, I must admit to being somewhat surprised because I had assumed the deep state you're always talking about was a modern day phenomenon, but, if that definition is correct, I must tell you that I studied a play Shakespeare wrote four hundred and twenty years ago in which an equivalent of the deep state was involved for my English A level back in the early seventies.These clowns don't even know what the definition of a deep state is, they have been watching too many James Bond movies
If what you allege is true, then, of course, it's a huge story, but it strikes me as naive to assume that the sort of thing that may have been plotted against Donald Trump is some sort of first - people have been plotting against their leaders for thousands of years.
It's big due to the global nature of it all, and the possiblity that powerful intel surveillance systems were used illegally against their own citizens. That is why Barr is investigating the predicate event that triggered the Trump Russia Collusion investigation. Any nativity would be on the part of those who don't think this is a big deal, as it concerts the collective rights of every citizen. If Trump could be stitched up, then anybody can.
Lardy, Cyril and Bob can be the three wise men. You can be the ass. Sorted!
He's not my Boris he's the creation and love child of every MP who have successfully stalled us leaving Europe and allowed the loon in , mind you it will soon be loon v loon in the next election , such fun.
And then you can have a right strop/moan at the result for the next five years of purgatory.
There we go the new friendly face of socialismLardy, Cyril and Bob can be the three wise men. You can be the ass. Sorted!
( thought the right wing were the nasties when it came to throw away language and insults).
How does your reply amount to an educated response ??
Just because someone has an alternative view you dont have to lower ones standards to child like one liners .
Strange as your debate can be is very intresting and well positioned .
Perhaps you should retire from reading and responding to WB points , if its effecting you so badly.
I thought it was funny.
Meanwhile, although it'll be dismissed as just the Guardian, I think this bloke is spot on - I await replies defending the indefensible.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...d-china-tweets
It's brave of you to also go down with the ship, alongside Captain lardy and Admiral cyril
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