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    Caution: The following clip may trigger TDS!

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    The Russians are coming ... again!

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9286326.html

    Trump impeachment: Ukraine launches investigation into 'spying' on former ambassador by US president's associates

    Officials say they cannot ignore possibility crime was committed on Ukrainian soil after newly released documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9286326.html

    Trump impeachment: Ukraine launches investigation into 'spying' on former ambassador by US president's associates

    Officials say they cannot ignore possibility crime was committed on Ukrainian soil after newly released documents.
    I thought she was spying on Republicans? It's hard to keep up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I thought she was spying on Republicans? It's hard to keep up
    Which Republicans?

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    "The Trump administration violated the law by withholding $391 million in military assistance to Ukraine, the US government's independent auditor has said.

    The accusation was made in a memorandum released on Thursday, in which Government Accountability Office general counsel Thomas Armstrong wrote that the president and his budget officials are not allowed to disregard the will of Congress to pursue their own policy.

    "Faithful execution of the law does not permit the president to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law," Mr Armstrong wrote.

    "


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    "Every time he says that [he doesn't know me] I'll show him another picture".

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51154812

    Clinton prosecutor Ken Starr to defend Trump in impeachment:

    US President Donald Trump's defence team in his Senate trial will include special prosecutors from President Bill Clinton's impeachment.

    He will be represented by Ken Starr and Robert Ray, who investigated Mr Clinton, and Alan Dershowitz, whose past clients include OJ Simpson.

    White House counsel Pat Cipollone and Mr Trump's personal lawyer Jay Sekulow will lead the team.

    Mr Dershowitz and Mr Starr both represented disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein during his 2008 abuse trial.

    Axios reported that some White House officials were against Mr Dershowitz joining the team, given his ties to Mr Epstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51154812

    Clinton prosecutor Ken Starr to defend Trump in impeachment:

    US President Donald Trump's defence team in his Senate trial will include special prosecutors from President Bill Clinton's impeachment.

    He will be represented by Ken Starr and Robert Ray, who investigated Mr Clinton, and Alan Dershowitz, whose past clients include OJ Simpson.

    White House counsel Pat Cipollone and Mr Trump's personal lawyer Jay Sekulow will lead the team.

    Mr Dershowitz and Mr Starr both represented disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein during his 2008 abuse trial.

    Axios reported that some White House officials were against Mr Dershowitz joining the team, given his ties to Mr Epstein.
    I thought they weren't even going to mount a defence to support their line that this is a sham

    It won't change the result, trump will 'win, but I wonder if the thinness of his defence vs the prosecution will backfire in public opinion.

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    He's innocent, he gets relected with thumping majority , we get a sexy trade deal done ,bingo .

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    What's Ian Duncan-Smith got to do with it?
    That's IDS syndrome (silly )

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    Lardy & Cyril won't like this latest development after the tremendous effort they put into their prolonged Trump Russia Collusion propaganda campaign ...

    In at least 2 FISA applications there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that Carter Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.

    I would imagine US Attorney John Durham is already quite deep into his investigation, even though some people on here were calling Bill Barr a stooge for questioning the predication. Like I've been saying right from the very beginning it was all a hoax, and Donald Trump was setup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Lardy & Cyril won't like this latest development after the tremendous effort they put into their prolonged Trump Russia Collusion propaganda campaign ...

    In at least 2 FISA applications there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that Carter Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.

    I would imagine US Attorney John Durham is already quite deep into his investigation, even though some people on here were calling Bill Barr a stooge for questioning the predication. Like I've been saying right from the very beginning it was all a hoax, and Donald Trump was setup.


    TDS alive and kicking .

    What happened to Brexit , Policing ,NHS, Homeless , Social Care , Austerity....
    ..oh hang on that's too easy. You do need a brighter wing man though!

    Tell me if the Department of Justice considered that two of the four warrants failed to provide sufficient probable cause that Carter Page was a foreign agent presumably that means that two, including the one that initiated the investigation did, sort of blowing all the bull you have thrown and rubbishing Barr's assertion that the DOJ IG was wrong in its conclusions. Congratulations on highlighting this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    TDS alive and kicking .

    What happened to Brexit , Policing ,NHS, Homeless , Social Care , Austerity....
    ..oh hang on that's too easy. You do need a brighter wing man though!

    Tell me if the Department of Justice considered that two of the four warrants failed to provide sufficient probable cause that Carter Page was a foreign agent presumably that means that two, including the one that initiated the investigation did, sort of blowing all the bull you have thrown and rubbishing Barr's assertion that the DOJ IG was wrong in its conclusions. Congratulations on highlighting this fact.
    I admire your willingness to go down with the ship It was all a hoax, and if only you had listened you wouldn't have made such a fool of yourself!

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    A picture paints a thousand words!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I admire your willingness to go down with the ship It was all a hoax, and if only you had listened you wouldn't have made such a fool of yourself!

    Oooops
    ""Justice Dept. Says Facts Did Not Justify Continued Wiretap of Trump Aide""..

    Great name though *(Carter Page) sounds like a character out of a Marvel Comic, perhaps he is , and belongs to the collective TDS super hero group that follow the almighty orange one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Oooops
    ""Justice Dept. Says Facts Did Not Justify Continued Wiretap of Trump Aide""..

    Great name though *(Carter Page) sounds like a character out of a Marvel Comic, perhaps he is , and belongs to the collective TDS super hero group that follow the almighty orange one.
    For some reason Cyril still thinks that Trump Russia Collusion really happened, and that Barr is only here to protect the president from impeachment, so that he can carry on colluding with Putin. It's very odd behaviour to carry on believing in a debunked hoax, and everything he writes is taken from this viewpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    For some reason Cyril still thinks that Trump Russia Collusion really happened, and that Barr is only here to protect the president from impeachment, so that he can carry on colluding with Putin. It's very odd behaviour to carry on believing in a debunked hoax, and everything he writes is taken from this viewpoint.
    Its nothing to do with Trump , it's just about having a go at anything that's not left wing politics , their even giving Boris and Israel a rest , and concentrating on their TDS agenda , now that Corbyn is in the past, because he and his supporters were done up like a kipper .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Ah, another Nelson case study.

    In December the OIG report found that the investigation was not biased, its initiation was justified and there was no evidence to support the Trump-led charge that his campaign and administration was being spied upon.

    It did find 17 procedural errors by the FBI. Christopher Wray in his response to the report on January 10th said:

    “The FBI has the utmost respect for this court, and deeply regrets the errors and omissions identified by the OIG [Office of the Inspector General]. The OIG Report and the affiliated Rule 13(a) letters describe conduct that is unacceptable and unrepresentative of the FBI as an institution. FISA is an indispensable tool in national security investigations, and in recognition of our duty of candor to the court, and our responsibilities to the American people, the FBI is committed to working with the court and [Department of Justice] to ensure the accuracy and completeness of the FISA process.”

    The OANN video of 10th January in response to the letter embedded in the Q supporting tweet has the headline:

    FBI admits illegal wiretapping of President Trump, issues apology

    This is not true but I guess that's not the point. In a meme in the video it stated:

    In a statement to the FISA court, Wray writes that the FBI’s behavior surveilling the Trump campaign was “unacceptable and unrepresentative of the FBI as an institution,” and that “the FBI deeply regrets the errors and omissions identified by” the Inspector General — errors and omissions that allowed the FBI to continue to surveil what we have now learned [were] completely innocent Trump associates like Carter Page, George Papadopoulos and Gen. Mike Flynn.

    There is that phrase again now taken out of context to look like the words wrapped around it by OANN were part of the statement rather than fake news.

    Seventeen days later Nelson's Q boys...not the speediest tools in the box,finally catch up and translate this bull further into:

    Head of @FBI Dr.Wray, Sent a Letter APOLOGIZING for the ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING of PRESIDENT TRUMP/ Then candidate Donald J.Trump, Cater Page, G.P. and @GenFlynn!!! Do you know how big this is? BOOMERANG BABY! #Qanon #ImpeachmentSham

    Nelson, thinking he is ahead of the fake news rather than a few weeks behind tails this with "Bloody conspiracists!!!!!"

    We have been here a number of times before but I guess Pavlovian behaviour is not going to be modified overnight. Still it impressed the odd gin-soaked insomniac so probably worth the effort of looking silly to everybody else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    errors and omissions that allowed the FBI to continue to surveil what we have now learned [were] completely innocent Trump associates like Carter Page, George Papadopoulos and Gen. Mike Flynn.
    This is my favourite part of the video. It's the literal fake news that the right say that they hate - yet they lap it up when it's on their side. "completely innocent".... yet the facts dictate that at least two of them were guilty of breaking certain laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    This is my favourite part of the video. It's the literal fake news that the right say that they hate - yet they lap it up when it's on their side. "completely innocent".... yet the facts dictate that at least two of them were guilty of breaking certain laws.
    What laws did they break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Incredible, they really do anything to get rid of him ,other than via the ballot box , I wonder why, don't they trust the electorate, surely these wonderful squeaky clean Democrats will fly into power 🤣😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Incredible, they really do anything to get rid of him ,other than via the ballot box , I wonder why, don't they trust the electorate, surely these wonderful squeaky clean Democrats will fly into power ����
    What are you talking about now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    What laws did they break?
    Certain laws 👍🤣

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