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  1. #1
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Interesting that they say Qanon is violent, when all its about is information and whether people want to believe it is at their discretion, they don't force people to believe it and they don't tell people to go out rioting, looting and smashing up property, shops and statues, like xr or blm. 🤔
    If you're going to defend Qanon as a non-violent entity and say that BLM "tell people to go out rioting, looting and smashing up property, shops and statues"... You're gonna need to post some evidence of BLM (the actual group) encouraging that behaviour, otherwise you're just showing yourself up.

    You know how easy it would be for me to Google "Qanon violence" and post things their followers have done which exceed the things you've accused BLM of promoting, don't you?

    2 BLM protestors were murdered a month ago by a Qanon follower. It's not spreading messages of hope and love, is it? BLM isn't great and I've stopped supporting them as they are veering too far away from their initial message, but at least it's not spreading conspiracies that get innocent people killed.

    You think you know more than the rest of us because you do your "research"... Yet you lack any balance and latch on to everything you're fed by right wing media and websites.

    Think about why you're defending a man who has wished a paedophile "well", had a close relationship with that paedophile and her paedophile partner. A man that has also been accused numerous times of child sexual abuse himself (actual court cases!) yet believe he's secretly bringing down child trafficking rings.

    Is it because you're easily swayed and have dug your heels so deep that it would be embarrassing to admit you made a mistake... or is it because it makes sense for a person with Donald Trump's sketchy sexual history, his sexual comments about children (including his own), his admissions about how he can do whatever he wants to women (and teenage girls who participated in his pageants) and get away with it... Or is it his lack of morals and consideration and empathy for other people that makes you think he would be the man to trust to bring down child sex offenders?

  2. #2
    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    She's singing like a canary. And will be part of the bigger picture later on, in fact, Q has posted something on the board. More stuff on Maxwell coming out the end of this month, round about 30th if I can remember. So we'll see if that comes of, then you can make of that what you will. 👍
    We heard the same about Epstein for ****s sake.

  3. #3

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Those prospering in the Trump Swamp are telling him what he wants to hear rather than what he needs to hear and those who don't are getting the treatment that Wray and Redfield are at the moment. That's why Trump operatives like Caputo and Wolf are getting outed for doctoring Covid and intelligence reports to match what Trump has been saying rather than what the analysis is showing.

    Glad to see that you are riding the Trump panzerwagen to its destination rather than this bull you pedal about the rule of law though!
    Sadly after endless posts ,you never really got WB posts, he's not a Trump supporter ,not many are , its about the corruption around him that some seem so blind too, of course he's a idiot , it's plain for all to see ,try and see the bigger picture not blinker ones views because of your political alliance, the Democrats are also corrupt in so many ways, there more secretive and hide behind alleged good causes and its sad true socialist can't accept and see that.

    You only have to look back on Hillary's and others attacks on Saunders to see that .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Sadly after endless posts ,you never really got WB posts, he's not a Trump supporter ,not many are , its about the corruption around him that some seem so blind too, of course he's a idiot , it's plain for all to see ,try and see the bigger picture not blinker ones views because of your political alliance, the Democrats are also corrupt in so many ways, there more secretive and hide behind alleged good causes and its sad true socialist can't accept and see that.

    You only have to look back on Hillary's and others attacks on Saunders to see that .
    Fair play. That's your funniest shot yet. You need to avoid celebrating these early kick offs

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Sadly after endless posts ,you never really got WB posts, he's not a Trump supporter ,not many are , its about the corruption around him that some seem so blind too, of course he's a idiot , it's plain for all to see ,try and see the bigger picture not blinker ones views because of your political alliance, the Democrats are also corrupt in so many ways, there more secretive and hide behind alleged good causes and its sad true socialist can't accept and see that.

    You only have to look back on Hillary's and others attacks on Saunders to see that .
    And you haven't quite got that it's not about political allegiance. If one of the other republicans had won the primary and then the election in 2016, there wouldn't be a 250 page thread about them.

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Sadly after endless posts ,you never really got WB posts, he's not a Trump supporter ,not many are , its about the corruption around him that some seem so blind too, of course he's a idiot , it's plain for all to see ,try and see the bigger picture not blinker ones views because of your political alliance, the Democrats are also corrupt in so many ways, there more secretive and hide behind alleged good causes and its sad true socialist can't accept and see that.

    You only have to look back on Hillary's and others attacks on Saunders to see that .
    No, you've got that completely wrong, Gluey's still "on the fence" when it comes to Trump I believe.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    No, you've got that completely wrong, Gluey's still "on the fence" when it comes to Trump I believe.
    I'll let you know at the end of the week.

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Fair play. That's your funniest shot yet. You need to avoid celebrating these early kick offs
    as long as I annoy you , my day is complete, and your reply has done that 😉

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    as long as I annoy you , my day is complete, and your reply has done that 😉
    Perhaps you should be setting higher goals for your day. No aspiration

  10. #10

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Perhaps you should be setting higher goals for your day. No aspiration
    I've always started at the bottom, and built upwards, thanks for being there as a building block , as one builds higher you finally reach your goals and aspirations . I always look back and at that little first building block and smirk.

  11. #11

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I've always started at the bottom, and built upwards, thanks for being there as a building block , as one builds higher you finally reach your goals and aspirations . I always look back and at that little first building block and smirk.
    Your posts in the morning seem a tad more grammatically correct than those later in the day. Any particular reason.....hic!

  12. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Your posts in the morning seem a tad more grammatically correct than those later in the day. Any particular reason.....hic!
    Surprise, surprise, Cyril fires off another ad hominem. Just imagine that's all you have left in your locker!

  13. #13

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Surprise, surprise, Cyril fires off another ad hominem. Just imagine that's all you have left in your locker!
    Indeed. Imagine being responsible for this lot!

    Shill,
    Moron,
    Revisionist Tosser,
    Irritating ****
    Troll
    Disinformation propagandist
    Complete Moron
    Total Waste of Space
    Weirdo
    A Psycho
    Drama Queen
    BS Merchant
    Obsessive whack job and
    On the edge of what is normal
    Paid Shill or something
    Political Hack with a dodgy ideology
    Messageboard spammer
    Morally Righteous
    Virtue Signaller
    Righteous Ranter
    Proven Propagandist
    Dopey Fool
    Clueless Propagandist shill
    Guilt tripper
    Welsh version of Kim Jong Un
    Cultural Maxist
    OCD sufferer
    Unhinged
    you are a childish knut
    Hahahaha cyril's a clever boy hahahaha
    ©Cyril
    You are starting to make lardy & cyril look clever
    You've got a few screws loose mate and you need to sort yourself out!
    Lowest of the Low
    Scum of the Earth

  14. #14

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Indeed. Imagine being responsible for this lot!

    Shill,
    Moron,
    Revisionist Tosser,
    Irritating ****
    Troll
    Disinformation propagandist
    Complete Moron
    Total Waste of Space
    Weirdo
    A Psycho
    Drama Queen
    BS Merchant
    Obsessive whack job and
    On the edge of what is normal
    Paid Shill or something
    Political Hack with a dodgy ideology
    Messageboard spammer
    Morally Righteous
    Virtue Signaller
    Righteous Ranter
    Proven Propagandist
    Dopey Fool
    Clueless Propagandist shill
    Guilt tripper
    Welsh version of Kim Jong Un
    Cultural Maxist
    OCD sufferer
    Unhinged
    you are a childish knut
    Hahahaha cyril's a clever boy hahahaha
    ©Cyril
    You are starting to make lardy & cyril look clever
    You've got a few screws loose mate and you need to sort yourself out!
    Lowest of the Low
    Scum of the Earth
    MY old grandad said always tell the truth, and that's what I do!

  15. #15

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    No, you've got that completely wrong, Gluey's still "on the fence" when it comes to Trump I believe.
    Its not a fence its a Mexican wall .

    From what I’ve read WB is no Trump fan (unless you and your mates, can delve into your WB quote files to disprove it ) like me hates the hypocrisy of others.

  16. #16

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You are totally missing the point, you are incapable of coming to any conclusion of your own, that arent spoon fed to you by a small section of the media.
    "any conclusion...that ARENT"?

  17. #17

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    "any conclusion...that ARENT"?
    If you're from the grammar police you can feck right off

  18. #18

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If yoyou' from the grammar police you can feck right off
    Warriors.... come out to playyyyyyey

  19. #19

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Talk about all mouth and no trousers.

  20. #20

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Just using Trump's own words, this seems to be the plan to 'win' the presidency.

    Claim victory on election night as he is probably going to be ahead on in person voting, before the postal votes are counted. And the quick snatch of a supreme court judge, in complete opposition to what numerous big cheese republicans have said on the matter in the past four years, is crucial to that. Trump's own words. He's not hiding the strategy.


  21. #21

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Just using Trump's own words, this seems to be the plan to 'win' the presidency.

    Claim victory on election night as he is probably going to be ahead on in person voting, before the postal votes are counted. And the quick snatch of a supreme court judge, in complete opposition to what numerous big cheese republicans have said on the matter in the past four years, is crucial to that. Trump's own words. He's not hiding the strategy.

    The tweet didn't load well, but these are Trump's words:

    “We're going to have a victory on November 3rd the likes of which you've never seen,” Trump told a rally in Fayetteville, N.C. “Now, we're counting on the federal court system to make it so that we can actually have an evening where we know who wins. Not where the votes are going to be counted a week later or two weeks later.”


    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...-fights-418672

  22. #22

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The tweet didn't load well, but these are Trump's words:

    “We're going to have a victory on November 3rd the likes of which you've never seen,” Trump told a rally in Fayetteville, N.C. “Now, we're counting on the federal court system to make it so that we can actually have an evening where we know who wins. Not where the votes are going to be counted a week later or two weeks later.”


    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...-fights-418672
    Same old Dems, always cheating

  23. #23

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Same old Dems, always cheating
    Dem cheating bastards I can hear the City lads sing

  24. #24
    Heisenberg
    Guest

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/n...rus-vance.html

    Trump Could Be Investigated for Tax Fraud, D.A. Says for First Time
    The assertion by the Manhattan district attorney offered rare insight into the office’s investigation of the president and his businesses.

    The Manhattan district attorney’s office, which has been locked in a yearlong legal battle with President Trump over obtaining his tax returns, suggested for the first time in a court filing on Monday that it had grounds to investigate him and his businesses for tax fraud.

    The filing by the office of the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., offered rare insight into the office’s investigation of the president and his business dealings, which began more than two years ago.

    Mr. Vance, a Democrat, has never revealed the scope of his office’s criminal inquiry, citing grand jury secrecy. The investigation has been stalled by the fight over a subpoena that the office issued in August 2019 for eight years of the president’s tax returns.

    Lawyers for Mr. Trump have said the subpoena should be blocked, calling it “wildly overbroad” and politically motivated. Mr. Vance responded to that argument in a carefully worded new filing that did not directly accuse Mr. Trump or any of his businesses or associates of wrongdoing and took pains to avoid disclosing details about the inquiry.

    However, prosecutors listed news reports and public testimony that alleged misconduct by Mr. Trump and his businesses. The reports, prosecutors wrote, would justify a grand jury inquiry into a range of possible crimes, including tax and insurance fraud and falsification of business records. It was the first time the office had suggested tax fraud might be among the possible areas of investigation.

    “Even if the grand jury were testing the truth of public allegations alone, such reports, taken together, fully justify the scope of the grand jury subpoena at issue in this case,” prosecutors wrote.

    Jay Sekulow, a lawyer for Mr. Trump, declined to comment on the district attorney’s filing.

    The president has said he expects the dispute over the subpoena will end up in the Supreme Court. “This is a continuation of the witch hunt, the greatest witch hunt in history,” Mr. Trump said last month.

    The conflict began when Mr. Vance’s prosecutors issued the grand jury subpoena to Mr. Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars USA, seeking the tax returns and other financial records.

    Mr. Vance’s office has been investigating hush-money payments that were made before the 2016 election to two women who claimed they had affairs with Mr. Trump.

    More recently, prosecutors suggested in court papers that their inquiry was broader, including a focus on possible financial crimes and insurance fraud. The prosecutors said they viewed Mr. Trump’s records as central to their investigation.

    After the subpoena was issued, Mr. Trump sued in federal court to block it, arguing that as a sitting president, he had blanket immunity from any criminal investigation. The judge, Victor Marrero of Federal District Court in Manhattan, roundly dismissed the claim, which had not been tested in the courts before, and the president appealed.

    The dispute ultimately reached the Supreme Court, which in July handed down a landmark decision ruling against Mr. Trump.

    “No citizen, not even the president, is categorically above the common duty to produce evidence when called upon in a criminal proceeding,” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote for the majority.

    But the justices said that Mr. Trump could return to the lower court and raise other objections to the subpoena’s scope and relevance. Mr. Trump’s lawyers went back to Judge Marrero, arguing that the document request was political and “so sweeping that it amounts to an unguided and unlawful fishing expedition.”

    In August, Judge Marrero dismissed the president’s new arguments. The judge noted that Mr. Trump’s lengthy legal battle could end up allowing the statute of limitations to expire on any possible crimes, and effectively grant him the immunity to which the Supreme Court ruled he was not entitled.

    “At its core, it amounts to absolute immunity through a back door,” Judge Marrero wrote. He added, “Justice requires an end to this controversy.”

    Mr. Trump is now appealing that decision in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. In recent court filings, his lawyers described Judge Marrero’s opinion as “flawed from start to finish,” and they accused him of “stacking the deck” against the president.

    “The president is not trying to resurrect a categorical-immunity claim,” the lawyers wrote. “He is challenging this specific subpoena on distinct grounds.”

    The appeals court scheduled oral arguments on the matter for Friday. However the court rules, either party could take the case back to the Supreme Court, making it unlikely the dispute will be decided before the presidential election on Nov. 3.

    Even if Mr. Vance’s prosecutors ultimately obtain Mr. Trump’s tax records, grand jury secrecy rules make it unlikely the materials will become public anytime soon. They might only surface if Mr. Vance’s office brings charges and the tax returns are introduced as evidence in court.

  25. #25

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Meanwhile, in the real world, as opposed to the one of endless conspiracy theories designed to portray the President in good light, the number of Covid 19 deaths in the USA will pass 200,000 today (it already has if some sites are to be believed). Go back and see what Trump was saying through most of the first half of this year and then take in that figure - it gives you all the reason you need to hope that the American electorate do not repeat their mistake of 2016 in a few weeks time.

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