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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    Check mate.

    Anything beyond that and we are all drawn in.

    I never thought I'd actually see a nuclear cock-fight, with the planet as the ultimate prize, in my lifetime.

    It takes two very special kinda guys to do this to the rest of us.

    Of course the ITK crew know I'm being naive - arf -arf.
    It's all Trump's fault for bullying Kim Jong Un.

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    Yet again the collosal prick gets it wrong with his pathetic comment on the incident in Charlottesville yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Yet again the collosal prick gets it wrong with his pathetic comment on the incident in Charlottesville yesterday.
    His comments have so far brought us closer to nuclear war and condoned Nazis in the streets and he's not even done a year yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    His comments have so far brought us closer to nuclear war and condoned Nazis in the streets and he's not even done a year yet.
    Have you got a link to where he condoned the Nazis? And also some proof (besides the stormtrooper helmets) that they were Nazis and not agent provocateurs. Thanks mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Have you got a link to where he condoned the Nazis? And also some proof (besides the stormtrooper helmets) that they were Nazis and not agent provocateurs. Thanks mate.
    It's great that you're now a sticker for clarity and transparency before accepting something. That wasn't the case for the Clinton Enterprise's decades-long stranglehold on politics, media and the legal world, or North Korea being China's puppet, or that people on the left want to make paedophilia acceptable, or the same people on the left pushing an open borders agenda by somehow putting words into the mouth of Trump's political adviser, or that YouTube and Twitter are trying to control the minds of the majority (despite their unmoderated user comments showing a massive spectrum of opinion) - and that's just the last few pages of this thread. All of a sudden making inferences is not good enough...

    To answer your questions.

    Trump has never been shy about being speaking clearly about subjects. This time he made a clear refusal to specifically condemn the white supremacists and refused to say he didn't want their support. Plenty of other senators, governors, etc have clearly condemned them. Trump hasn't. If you're not condemning this, you're condoning it.

    Are they paid actors? I don't know them personally so I cannot say. But their identities are being made known over social media and we will no doubt find out soon enough. But if you have spent time in the Deep South or spoken to anyone from there about attitudes, you'd know there's no need to pay people to act like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It's great that you're now a sticker for clarity and transparency before accepting something. That wasn't the case for the Clinton Enterprise's decades-long stranglehold on politics, media and the legal world, or North Korea being China's puppet, or that people on the left want to make paedophilia acceptable, or the same people on the left pushing an open borders agenda by somehow putting words into the mouth of Trump's political adviser, or that YouTube and Twitter are trying to control the minds of the majority (despite their unmoderated user comments showing a massive spectrum of opinion) - and that's just the last few pages of this thread. All of a sudden making inferences is not good enough...

    To answer your questions.

    Trump has never been shy about being speaking clearly about subjects. This time he made a clear refusal to specifically condemn the white supremacists and refused to say he didn't want their support. Plenty of other senators, governors, etc have clearly condemned them. Trump hasn't. If you're not condemning this, you're condoning it.

    Are they paid actors? I don't know them personally so I cannot say. But their identities are being made known over social media and we will no doubt find out soon enough. But if you have spent time in the Deep South or spoken to anyone from there about attitudes, you'd know there's no need to pay people to act like this.
    I am just trying to form an unbiased opinion, and the only information I have so far is coming from you. Do you have an outline of the policing strategy that was in play yesterday? Were both groups policed sufficiently and fairly?

    Regarding Clinton, I never really paid much attention to her before. I only became aware of the progressive agenda after researching Brexit, and Soros's name kept popping up in all kinds of globalist subterfuge, which all seemed to be connected to the Democrats in some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Have you got a link to where he condoned the Nazis? And also some proof (besides the stormtrooper helmets) that they were Nazis and not agent provocateurs. Thanks mate.
    Hi mate, one of thems been identified and sacked by his employer already. Let's keep an eye on it, shall we mate?

    https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist/s...13553666871296

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Hi mate, one of thems been identified and sacked by his employer already. Let's keep an eye on it, shall we mate?

    https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist/s...13553666871296
    He was employed by the White House?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Hi mate, one of thems been identified and sacked by his employer already. Let's keep an eye on it, shall we mate?

    https://twitter.com/YesYoureRacist/s...13553666871296
    Anyway, what is this page all about? It seems to be the Antifa crowd going around photographing people who attend legal rallies, and then exposing their identies on the internet just because they have different views.

    So what's next? Photographing people who voted for Brexit and trying to get them fired? Maybe Conservative voters too? Swansea City supporters? People with beards? It's a very slippery slope that you promoting here, encouraging the suppression of ideas and freedom of speach.

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    I think the scores are about even, terrorist deaths/wounded by Muslim extremists and by the the far right in USA in 2017. One has the protection of the president though so I am certain Trump and his boys will go on to win it in extra time.

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    Amazing how the prick forgets to tweet on days like this and when that other idiot drove into a crowd in London.
    But has had time to voice his (stupid and unwanted) opinion about Sadiq Khan.

  12. #12

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    For more than a century the USA has been a beacon of democracy. Now its head has harsher words for women who may be menstruating or may have had plastic surgery than when a fanatic drives into a group of americans who hold different beliefs to him. Sad times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    For more than a century the USA has been a beacon of democracy. Now its head has harsher words for women who may be menstruating or may have had plastic surgery than when a fanatic drives into a group of americans who hold different beliefs to him. Sad times!
    JFK didn't seem to think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    JFK didn't seem to think so
    Nor Joseph McCarthy but it has endured! Do you think that Trump is serving it well now though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Nor Joseph McCarthy but it has endured! Do you think that Trump is serving it well now though?
    It depends on factors whose veracity I've yet to establish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    For more than a century the USA has been a beacon of democracy. Now its head has harsher words for women who may be menstruating or may have had plastic surgery than when a fanatic drives into a group of americans who hold different beliefs to him. Sad times!
    In the past century, "beacon of democracy" the USA has (excluding WW2) invaded 9 countries, effected regime change in 30 sovereign states and bombed around 30 as well. They have removed governments that have been brought to power by popular revolutions (Korea) and democratic elections (Iran). It is a two-party state where a son was president a mere eight years after his father left office. The USA jails more people and spends more on its military than any other country. The US military and sanctions have been responsible for killing tens of millions of people in the past century (even excluding WW2).

    All I see in these crises is Trump - who I always detested until he took on Crooked Hillary - posturing. He may well be crazy or senile but he hasn't DONE anything warlike yet - apart from bombing some hangars in Syria.

    As for Antifa I was a member of the Anti-Nazi League and also Globalise Resistance. I was at Oxford Circus being kettled in May 2001 and I've travelled abroad to G7 summits to protest. I did all that sort of stuff, hundreds of protests for 20 years and saw the agents provocateurs take control so many times that I gave up and joined Plaid Cymru. Antifa are now badge carrying "progressives" and instead of opposing war or kleptocracy or the police state they're now protesting people who don't address cross dressers by the correct pronoun. God help us all.

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    Here's a vid of the Virginia demo when a car hits people. Viewer discretion advised as it's graphic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Amazing how the prick forgets to tweet on days like this and when that other idiot drove into a crowd in London.
    But has had time to voice his (stupid and unwanted) opinion about Sadiq Khan.
    This. While I don't want to see the alt-right event organiser be attacked as he tries to condemn the violence, Donald trump has tied himself up in knots by allowing himself to appear as an apologist for neo-nazis by not being vocal enough when he has always previously been happy to be so.

    From what I can see (limited viewing) Trump's daughter seems to have a much better idea of the world than the president and vice president Sean spice seems to have not much more at all than the president but in a more professional package. Can, just this once, can we forget the whole democracy thing and go monarchy rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not at all, I stand behind the right for any group to protest legally and peacefully.

    From the footage above it looks like the Antifa mob were all tooled up and looking for trouble.

    The FBI are on the scene now, so it won't be easy for the local mayor and police dept to cover this one up. Eye witness reports are saying that they stood back and let it all happen.
    It looked like almost everyone attending the rally had some kind of weapon. Many in full combat gear with multiple firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    It looked like almost everyone attending the rally had some kind of weapon. Many in full combat gear with multiple firearms.
    But no shots were fired.

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    But no shots were fired.
    Who needs to shoot when you can stick a brainwashed maniac in a car?

    My point was in response to 'antifa were tooled up', everyone was tooled up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Who needs to shoot when you can stick a brainwashed maniac in a car?

    My point was in response to 'antifa were tooled up', everyone was tooled up.
    It is not yet know how many infiltraters were in play. These events didn't happen by accident. They were advertising for paid actors and photographers a week ago. It was all planned out.

    Here is some footage of the brainwashed maniac in the car, it's scary stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrRxXxJoraI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It is not yet know how many infiltraters were in play. These events didn't happen by accident. They were advertising for paid actors and photographers a week ago. It was all planned out.

    Here is some footage of the brainwashed maniac in the car, it's scary stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrRxXxJoraI
    Here's part of what the voiceover says in that account. We can all draw our own conclusions for its impartiality, and the impartiality of the gentleman who shared it with us.

    "You can see that he is driving recklessly and driving too quickly for such a crowded street. But he's not driving so quickly that people can't get out of the way. Most of the crowd has no problem getting out of the way because they're already on the sides of the street. The media is pushing the idea that this was an intentional terror attack, that this was a right wing terrorist ploughing his car into a crowd of protestors who disagreed with him. But notice here how somebody hits his car with a baseball bat before he actually hits anyone. Sure he's driving recklessly, but it doesn't seem that he has the intent to actually kill people."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It is not yet know how many infiltraters were in play. These events didn't happen by accident. They were advertising for paid actors and photographers a week ago. It was all planned out.

    Here is some footage of the brainwashed maniac in the car, it's scary stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrRxXxJoraI
    Link?

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