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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I think this is correct, and further to that every action trump does from now on (if it wasn't already the case) will have the sole purpose of keeping him as president. This is not good for the rest of the world.
    I actually agree with this, but only if there is no fruit of the poison tree lurking beneath the surface!

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    Don't know if Donald does humour/irony, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    What if people connected to Hillary and Obama are found guilty? What if Mueller is exposed for some wrongdoing in his evidence gathering? How were the illegal wiretaps used to collect information? Still lots of variables in play, so it's too soon to call IMO. I'm still waiting for the hammer blow that decides it one way or the other. There is a lot at stake here, and we are going to see desperate measures coming from all directions.
    There was a n alleged case about election overspend with Obama wasn't there ,but he unknowingly new about it .

    And Hilary well ,she's the reason why Trump is in power, she's squeaky clean.

    I don't think any of this will stick to Trump .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I actually agree with this, but only if there is no fruit of the poison tree lurking beneath the surface!
    I wonder if a quick conflict might ease the pressure on Trump ?

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    No campaign violation according Law Professor and former FEC chairman Bradley Smith in the video above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?
    Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?

    It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.

    In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?

    It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.

    In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.
    These cases were never about Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    These cases were never about Russia.
    Attorney and Clinton advisor Lanny Davis who is representing Michael Cohen pro bono (for free), is co-founder and partner of the law firm of Davis Goldberg & Galper. According to FARA records his firm is a registered ACTIVE foreign agent for Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash, who is a close ally of Russian pres Vladimir Putin and is wanted by the US. Firtash was indicted by a US grand jury for allegedly conspiring to pay millions of dollars in bribes to Indian officials through US banks. He is also a former associate of Paul Manafort!

    These cases were never about Russia? Oh yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?

    I haven’t accused Trump of collusion. That’s down to the investigation that’s being carried out which is still ongoing. What this investigation is showing is that a number of people have committed criminal acts which they deserve to be punished for.


    What I find quite shameful is that a President of the USA is criticising his own judicial system and expressing sympathy for a convicted criminal.

    Not right surely?


    https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/sta...56443985084417

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    Heisenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?

    It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.

    In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.
    'Cohen pleaded guilty to two counts of making contributions in excess of $25,000 for the purpose of influencing a federal election.

    Trump's former lawyer told a federal court on Tuesday that he made two payments, one for $150,000 in the summer of 2016 and another in Oct. 2016 of $130,000, both at the direction of Trump. The payments were to former Playboy model Karen McDougal and adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, both of whom have claimed to have had affairs with Trump. The president has denied those allegations.

    Cohen also filed invoices to the Trump Organization to be reimbursed for those payments, masking them as services rendered for 2017 even though he did not provide legal services to the president that year.

    The crimes carry a maximum sentence of 65 years, but sentencing guidelines recommend 46-63 months of prison time'

    I've highlighted the key points for you. The crime would have apparently been to a lesser degree if they had actually used campaign funds. Trump has now categorically said, on camera, that campaign funds were not used, possibly incriminating himself even further.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...lations-791377

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    'Cohen pleaded guilty to two counts of making contributions in excess of $25,000 for the purpose of influencing a federal election.

    Trump's former lawyer told a federal court on Tuesday that he made two payments, one for $150,000 in the summer of 2016 and another in Oct. 2016 of $130,000, both at the direction of Trump. The payments were to former Playboy model Karen McDougal and adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, both of whom have claimed to have had affairs with Trump. The president has denied those allegations.

    Cohen also filed invoices to the Trump Organization to be reimbursed for those payments, masking them as services rendered for 2017 even though he did not provide legal services to the president that year.

    The crimes carry a maximum sentence of 65 years, but sentencing guidelines recommend 46-63 months of prison time'

    I've highlighted the key points for you. The crime would have apparently been to a lesser degree if they had actually used campaign funds. Trump has now categorically said, on camera, that campaign funds were not used, possibly incriminating himself even further.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...lations-791377
    So Trump is going to jail for 65 years? Hillary had better dust off her cowboy boots then

    BTW why did Dershowitz say it is perfectly normal to payoff people to avoid damaging publicity, in this case to his wife and family?

    Anyway, the proof of the pudding will be found in a Trump prosecution, if and when it occurs.

    *post bookmarked

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    Heisenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So Trump is going to jail for 65 years? Hillary had better dust off her cowboy boots then

    BTW why did Dershowitz say it is perfectly normal to payoff people to avoid damaging publicity, in this case to his wife and family?

    Anyway, the proof of the pudding will be found in a Trump prosecution, if and when it occurs.

    *post bookmarked
    Trust you to find the part of the post where you can exaggerate for effect. Nobody is suggesting that, are they?

    Once again, why are you asking me why somebody said something? I'd hazard a guess that the author of a book titled 'The Case Against Impeaching Trump!' may have a horse in the race though... Who knows?

    It's all very exciting though

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    Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control
    Thanks for that 😂😂😂

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    Heisenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control
    Brilliant

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    Glad to be of service

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    Oops, missed out, too the sheep bit

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    Heisenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Oops, missed out, too the sheep bit
    That's deep. "Too the sheep bit". Was that Wordsworth or Keates?

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    Heisenberg
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Attorney and Clinton advisor Lanny Davis who is representing Michael Cohen pro bono (for free), is co-founder and partner of the law firm of Davis Goldberg & Galper. According to FARA records his firm is a registered ACTIVE foreign agent for Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash, who is a close ally of Russian pres Vladimir Putin and is wanted by the US. Firtash was indicted by a US grand jury for allegedly conspiring to pay millions of dollars in bribes to Indian officials through US banks. He is also a former associate of Paul Manafort!

    These cases were never about Russia? Oh yeah?
    https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanSch...ed-to-putin%2F

    So what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Conflict of interest. He represents a billionaire who would benefit from Trump being removed from office. Why are these people always connected? Or is it just another coincidence?

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    Heisenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Conflict of interest. He represents a billionaire who would benefit from Trump being removed from office. Why are these people always connected? Or is it just another coincidence?
    How would the "billionaire" benefit from Trump being removed from office?

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