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  1. #1

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Ah, I see, Watergate and the Iran Contra affair were justice department productions then, helped along by the Clinton's and Obama presumably.
    It goes back a long way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It goes back a long way.
    Jeez, you do think Watergate was a globalist plot, your one-eyedness knows no bounds!

    Surprised that you, almost uniquely when it comes to Trump, decided not to comment on what he had to say about the assault on the Guardian reporter by a Republican Congressman.

  3. #3

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    Just in case there is any one in the world who is unaware of this, this man is the President of the USA

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45913921

  4. #4

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    Trump sided with Putin and Russia over US intelligence.
    Trump sided with Saudi Arabia over US intelligence.

    Trump has deep and unexplained financial ties with Russia and Saudi Arabia.

    Coincidence I expect. Draining the swamp Trump style #7,444

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Trump sided with Putin and Russia over US intelligence.
    Trump sided with Saudi Arabia over US intelligence.

    Trump has deep and unexplained financial ties with Russia and Saudi Arabia.

    Coincidence I expect. Draining the swamp Trump style #7,444
    Who did Obama side with?

    Is the Steele dossier your source for Trump having deep and unexplained financial ties with Russia by any chance?

  6. #6

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    Again, I wonder what on earth has this got to do with the fact that the President in the picture you posted, and one who was forced to resign because of his wrongdoing, had more people in the executive branch indicted and convicted than any other holders of that office in the last half a century (in the case of Nixon, there were more of them than the rest put together!). When it comes to prison sentences George W Bush pushes Reagan down into third place.

    Even if I was to accept your bizarre and completely unproven theory about who was holding the real power through all of the last fifty years until Trump came along, what does it say about the morality and intelligence of some of the Republican Presidents compared to the three Democrats who have held office in the same period - at the very worst, Carter, Clinton and Obama are far, far better at covering their tracks than Nixon, Reagan and George Bush Junior were.

  7. #7

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    25 top DOJ/FBI officials have been fired or demoted since Trump became president. Does that Trump is responsible for their behaviour?

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    25 top DOJ/FBI officials have been fired or demoted since Trump became president. Does that Trump is responsible for their behaviour?
    Another post unsupported by facts. Do you ever properly read the material on which you make your statements?

    Here is the list of 25 people culled from one of the likely right wing sites you used as a source.

    James Comey, director (fired)
    Andrew McCabe, deputy director (fired)
    Peter Strzok, counterintelligence expert (fired)
    Lisa Page, attorney (demoted; resigned)
    James Rybicki, chief of staff (resigned)
    James Baker, general counsel (resigned)
    Mike Kortan, assistant director for public affairs (resigned)
    Josh Campbell, special assistant to James Comey (resigned)
    James Turgal, executive assistant director (resigned)
    Greg Bower, assistant director for office of congressional affairs (resigned)
    Michael Steinbach, executive assistant director (resigned)
    John Giacalone, executive assistant director (resigned)
    DOJ Departures:

    Sally Yates, deputy attorney general (fired)
    Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general (twice demoted)
    David Laufman, counterintelligence chief (resigned)
    Rachel Brand, deputy attorney general (resigned)
    Trisha Beth Anderson, office of legal counsel for FBI (demoted or reassigned*)
    John P. Carlin, assistant attorney general (resigned)
    Peter Kadzik, assistant attorney general, congressional liaison (resigned)
    Mary McCord, acting assistant attorney general (resigned)
    Matthew Axelrod, principal assistant to deputy attorney general (resigned)
    Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney, SDNY (fired along with 45 other U.S. Attorneys)
    Sharon McGowan, civil rights division (resigned)
    Diana Flynn, litigation director for LGBTQ civil rights (resigned)
    Vanita Gupta, civil rights division (resigned)
    Joel McElvain, assistant branch director of the civil division (resigned)
    *Status Unclear

    As can be seen this is a list of 5 people fired and three people demoted. The other 17 resigned. Of those fired Comey's dismissal by Trump triggered the Muller investigation, Yates was an Obama holdover who went for instructing the DOJ teams that elements of the Muslim travel ban were illegal and should not be enacted and Bharara chose to be fired rather than resign like the other 45 District Attorneys appointed by Obama.

    Some of the people resigning such as Rachel Brand were appointed by the Trump Administration but within a year had decided to take up other opportunities. Other people on this list either resigned early or moved to private sector jobs and were obviously fillers to create the impression in the headline that all 25 somehow left in dubious circumstances.

    Still it is a tribute to you that you picked up this false narrative and presented a faker summary back to Bob.

  9. #9

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Another post unsupported by facts. Do you ever properly read the material on which you make your statements?

    Here is the list of 25 people culled from one of the likely right wing sites you used as a source.

    James Comey, director (fired)
    Andrew McCabe, deputy director (fired)
    Peter Strzok, counterintelligence expert (fired)
    Lisa Page, attorney (demoted; resigned)
    James Rybicki, chief of staff (resigned)
    James Baker, general counsel (resigned)
    Mike Kortan, assistant director for public affairs (resigned)
    Josh Campbell, special assistant to James Comey (resigned)
    James Turgal, executive assistant director (resigned)
    Greg Bower, assistant director for office of congressional affairs (resigned)
    Michael Steinbach, executive assistant director (resigned)
    John Giacalone, executive assistant director (resigned)
    DOJ Departures:

    Sally Yates, deputy attorney general (fired)
    Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general (twice demoted)
    David Laufman, counterintelligence chief (resigned)
    Rachel Brand, deputy attorney general (resigned)
    Trisha Beth Anderson, office of legal counsel for FBI (demoted or reassigned*)
    John P. Carlin, assistant attorney general (resigned)
    Peter Kadzik, assistant attorney general, congressional liaison (resigned)
    Mary McCord, acting assistant attorney general (resigned)
    Matthew Axelrod, principal assistant to deputy attorney general (resigned)
    Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney, SDNY (fired along with 45 other U.S. Attorneys)
    Sharon McGowan, civil rights division (resigned)
    Diana Flynn, litigation director for LGBTQ civil rights (resigned)
    Vanita Gupta, civil rights division (resigned)
    Joel McElvain, assistant branch director of the civil division (resigned)
    *Status Unclear

    As can be seen this is a list of 5 people fired and three people demoted. The other 17 resigned. Of those fired Comey's dismissal by Trump triggered the Muller investigation, Yates was an Obama holdover who went for instructing the DOJ teams that elements of the Muslim travel ban were illegal and should not be enacted and Bharara chose to be fired rather than resign like the other 45 District Attorneys appointed by Obama.

    Some of the people resigning such as Rachel Brand were appointed by the Trump Administration but within a year had decided to take up other opportunities. Other people on this list either resigned early or moved to private sector jobs and were obviously fillers to create the impression in the headline that all 25 somehow left in dubious circumstances.

    Still it is a tribute to you that you picked up this false narrative and presented a faker summary back to Bob.
    So they are all good people? Somebody must have got it all wrong then.

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So they are all good people? Somebody must have got it all wrong then.
    Someone with little self-awareness would be my guess.

  11. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Someone with little self-awareness would be my guess.
    What if they resigned to save their pensions, or they were told if they resigned no further action would be taken?

  12. #12

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    https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/wor...mongering.html

    Donald Trump’s strategy as midterms approach: lies and fear-mongering

  13. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/wor...mongering.html

    Donald Trump’s strategy as midterms approach: lies and fear-mongering



  14. #14

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    Why don't you just post the Conservative Treehouse, you get words and everything?

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-off-the-ruse/

    Now what do you think of the lies that came out of Trump's mouth at that rally you referenced?

  15. #15

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Why don't you just post the Conservative Treehouse, you get words and everything?

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-off-the-ruse/

    Now what do you think of the lies that came out of Trump's mouth at that rally you referenced?
    Them Dems are the biggest fibbers!

  16. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Them Dems are the biggest fibbers!
    Thanks for your cogent and well constructed analysis.

  17. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Why don't you just post the Conservative Treehouse, you get words and everything.
    Haven't been there for a while, but their Trump Russia Collusion deconstruction was spectacular. Open source research of the very highest order. Hopefully you will get to learn something interesting

  18. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Haven't been there for a while, but their Trump Russia Collusion deconstruction was spectacular. Open source research of the very highest order. Hopefully you will get to learn something interesting
    Really here is another of their very recent posts you might recognise! You seem to have developed the same taste for the truth as your hero.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-early-voting/

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  20. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post

    Come on, you lost two years ago, give it up mate! Are you one of those who go around calling Hillary the "real president?"

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Come on, you lost two years ago, give it up mate! Are you one of those who go around calling Hillary the "real president?"
    There you go, proving the last sentence in that Tweet to be correct.

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    There you go, proving the last sentence in that Tweet to be correct.
    I'm not a supporter, so what I think is of no consequence.

  23. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'm not a supporter, so what I think is of no consequence.
    I'd say someone who jumps in at every opportunity to post in favour of someone is a supporter (why did you have to reply to Lardy's post?) - especially when that person takes every chance they get to diss his idol's political opponents. In two years plus of being Trump's cheerleader on here, I can't remember you once being bothered by one of his lies.

  24. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'm not a supporter, so what I think is of no consequence.
    You’re right, I’d say more of a fan

  25. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    You’re right, I’d say more of a fan
    Yep, a big fan of the rule of law How about you?

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