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    GCHQ - and the Tappin of the Trump

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...q-wiretapping/

    What was this all about I wonder? - as in I genuinely wonder what this was all about?!

    I've used a telegraph link this time just to keep it in a fair round-robin of 'fake noos' outlets.

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    Like a bird on the wire,
    Like a drunk in a midnight choir
    I have tried in my way to be free.
    Like a worm on a hook,
    Like a knight from some old fashioned book
    I have saved all my ribbons for thee.
    If I, if I have been unkind,
    I hope that you can just let it go by.
    If I, if I have been untrue
    I hope you know it was never to you

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    Thanks! Proof that there is nothing that cannot be explained with a few lyrics from Smiley Lenny.
    Hallelujah! First we take Manhattan ..

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    Too many shenanigans going on at the moment, it will all come out in the wash eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Too many shenanigans going on at the moment, it will all come out in the wash eventually.
    Maybe it will, but even if the Clinton's, Obama, Blair etc are as guilty as you claim they are, it doesn't alter the fact that it's been amateur hour all day, every day in the White House since Inauguration Day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Maybe it will, but even if the Clinton's, Obama, Blair etc are as guilty as you claim they are, it doesn't alter the fact that it's been amateur hour all day, every day in the White House since Inauguration Day..
    Well, it's kinda interesting that a secretive organisation who never admit or deny anything, take an unprecedented step and make an exception for Trump. Personally, I think there is still lot's of milage left in this hacking story, it could rumble on for years.

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    Re: GCHQ - and the Tappin of the Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Well, it's kinda interesting that a secretive organisation who never admit or deny anything, take an unprecedented step and make an exception for Trump. Personally, I think there is still lot's of milage left in this hacking story, it could rumble on for years.
    Exactly!!, secret service organisations who never ever comment on accusations like this, have suddenly found a voice, its a little odd!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Exactly!!, secret service organisations who never ever comment on accusations like this, have suddenly found a voice, its a little odd!!!
    You find it odd?!
    Has GCHQ ever been publically called out in the international media and accused - by the Whitehouse! - of Election interference by way of phone tapping before?
    I don't think so. So perhaps it is pretty easy to imagine why, in this apparently unprecedented event, they took an apparently unprecedented step.

    I do agree that there is likely plenty more mileage in all of this.
    Whether that mileage leads to the path of enlightenment or up the garden path, we may find out as we plod along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Exactly!!, secret service organisations who never ever comment on accusations like this, have suddenly found a voice, its a little odd!!!
    Somebody's awake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Exactly!!, secret service organisations who never ever comment on accusations like this, have suddenly found a voice, its a little odd!!!
    And if they hadn't issued a response, would you now be taking the GCHQ side? I doubt it. So, effectively, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

    They issued a statement because, for the first time EVER, the UK's major ally, the UK's major trading partner, the UK's main defence co-operator etc etc... has accused the UK of tapping into their President. That is major stuff.

    Trump and his team spend too much time watching tabloid/cable news. Does he do any work at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Too many shenanigans going on at the moment, it will all come out in the wash eventually.
    So vague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCPhil View Post
    So vague.
    Vague if you are only following the MSM

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    His office have been forced to apologise to Britain for his latest lie. He keeps on lying and will eventually receive his comeuppance.

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    Trump distances White House from GCHQ wiretap claim

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39310075

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    So it seems that the Trump administration's approach in this episode, and a few other ones where they have behaved in a bizarre manner is all part of some master plan - silly me, how can I have got it so wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So it seems that the Trump administration's approach in this episode, and a few other ones where they have behaved in a bizarre manner is all part of some master plan - silly me, how can I have got it so wrong?
    What's that old saying?

    Who's more foolish, the fool or those that follow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    What's that old saying?

    Who's more foolish, the fool or those that follow?
    I can predict who the biggest fool will be. Bookmarked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So it seems that the Trump administration's approach in this episode, and a few other ones where they have behaved in a bizarre manner is all part of some master plan - silly me, how can I have got it so wrong?
    An unconventional approach, but I don't think it is random.

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    The anti-Trumpers are not laughing now, and this is only the beginning. It looks like old Donald has got them by the short and curlies! So the question now goes back to who exactly was involved, and was the surveillance carried out by national or international intelligence agencies?

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    Re: GCHQ - and the Tappin of the Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The anti-Trumpers are not laughing now, and this is only the beginning. It looks like old Donald has got them by the short and curlies! So the question now goes back to who exactly was involved, and was the surveillance carried out by national or international intelligence agencies?
    I genuinely don't understand what you think this story proves.

    It doesn't back Trump's wild claims about Obama or GCHQ.

    It does show that some of Trump's close circle were recorded post election in contacts with people the US intelligence agencies were monitoring as people 'of interest'.

    If anything, despite the smoke screen and bluster, it causes more problems and embarrassment for Trump.

    I think it is his short and curlies caught in the mechanism! Uncomfortable indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I genuinely don't understand what you think this story proves.

    It doesn't back Trump's wild claims about Obama or GCHQ.

    It does show that some of Trump's close circle were recorded post election in contacts with people the US intelligence agencies were monitoring as people 'of interest'.

    If anything, despite the smoke screen and bluster, it causes more problems and embarrassment for Trump.

    I think it is his short and curlies caught in the mechanism! Uncomfortable indeed.
    Let's see what happens when Comey appears under oath before the intelligence commitee. I already know what the outcome will be as there are 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information available as evidence. For some reason you always follow the wrong side. Just wait and see, everything you have denied will make you question your own decision making ability

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    Re: GCHQ - and the Tappin of the Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Let's see what happens when Comey appears under oath before the intelligence commitee. I already know what the outcome will be as there are 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information available as evidence. For some reason you always follow the wrong side. Just wait and see, everything you have denied will make you question your own decision making ability
    I know. It's a real worry. I think it started when I was a 5 year old and I could have picked Man Utd. Instead I gave my life to Cardiff City! Sometimes our choices just cannot be explained rationally. Still I'm now happy with my numerous delusions so just humour me.

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    Here is some further information regarding the above statement by Deven Nunes

    http://www.newsmax.com/LarryKlayman/.../19/id/779551/

    And the bombshell letter

    http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/1...r%20Letter.pdf

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