Erdogan to European Muslims: Make not three, but five children. Because you are the future of Europe

[severncity]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...turks-10048524

We did have a lengthy debate on the growth in the muslim population in the Dutch election thread but I think that this deserves a new thread.

[David Vincent]

Our future will be Islam. This will not make much difference. They will be in the majority eventually whether the average number of children is three, five or fifty.

[Vimana.]

"The president said: "Go live in better neighborhoods. Drive the best cars. Live in the best houses. Make not three, but five children."

TBH it does sound more attractive than living 15 to a house in a run down part of Riverside driving a P reg Corolla.

[Eric Cartman]

Our future will be Islam. This will not make much difference. They will be in the majority eventually whether the average number of children is three, five or fifty.

What do you think an majority Muslim Britain in 21xx will look like? Like Raqqa?

My best guess is it will look much like Christian Britain now where the majority of people pretend to be religious but in reality have better things to do. That is what happens when people get money, interesting jobs, leisure activities, beer, etc.

[severncity]

What do you think an majority Muslim Britain in 21xx will look like? Like Raqqa?

My best guess is it will look much like Christian Britain now where the majority of people pretend to be religious but in reality have better things to do. That is what happens when people get money, interesting jobs, leisure activities, beer, etc.

What, like in Saudi Arabia? They have money, interesting jobs and leisure activities but it's an islamic absolute monarchy - with no beer! I don't know what Britain will look like 50 or 100 years hence but I personally don't think Islam is the way forward. White Europeans will be in the minority and the descendents of Islamic immigrants will be the majority. The immigrant-descended British will take their cues for lifestyle from their elders, who won't be drinking or fornicating.

In a Saudi-like Britain, "Progressives" won't be tolerated - there'll be no LGBQT activities, or drinking, or unions, or equality for women, or tolerance of other religious practices. Rape will see the blame put on the victim and infidelity in marriage will be punishable by flogging or jail time.

Sounds awful.

Do you agree Eric?

[Eric Cartman]

What, like in Saudi Arabia? They have money, interesting jobs and leisure activities but it's an islamic absolute monarchy - with no beer! I don't know what Britain will look like 50 or 100 years hence but I personally don't think Islam is the way forward. White Europeans will be in the minority and the descendents of Islamic immigrants will be the majority. The immigrant-descended British will take their cues for lifestyle from their elders, who won't be drinking or fornicating.

In a Saudi-like Britain, "Progressives" won't be tolerated - there'll be no LGBQT activities, or drinking, or unions, or equality for women, or tolerance of other religious practices. Rape will see the blame put on the victim and infidelity in marriage will be punishable by flogging or jail time.

Sounds awful.

Do you agree Eric?

I think most evidence suggests that the descendants of migrants become more and more like the citizens of their new country generation after generation. In my opinion the kind of situation you are describing could only be reached by importing a massive population of Muslims from strict countries at one time.

Let's say what you are predicting turns out to be a vision of the future, what is your answer? What are we supposed to be discussing in these threads?

[David Vincent]

What do you think an majority Muslim Britain in 21xx will look like? Like Raqqa?

My best guess is it will look much like Christian Britain now where the majority of people pretend to be religious but in reality have better things to do. That is what happens when people get money, interesting jobs, leisure activities, beer, etc.

Beer! I don't think you have met many Muslims. According to the Koran the punishment for apostasy is death. So this will ensure that most Muslims remain Muslims. They will turn the UK into an overpopulated hellhole like every other Muslim country. They are not interested in looking after where they live because for them Earth is a just a kind of waiting room where they kill some time (and infidels) before they ascend into Heaven.

[Eric Cartman]

Beer! I don't think you have met many Muslims. According to the Koran the punishment for apostasy is death. So this will ensure that most Muslims remain Muslims. They will turn the UK into an overpopulated hellhole like every other Muslim country. They are not interested in looking after where they live because for them Earth is a just a kind of waiting room where they kill some time (and infidels) before they ascend into Heaven.

The bible says homosexuals should be murdered yet we have openly gay men and women leading services in churches all over the country. A religion is as moderate as the people practising it would like it to be.

I met Waqar Younis at the Oval some years ago, him and his agent were on the beers during the last session (there was a bar right next to the changing room in the olden days, i think it is hospitality now). I saw him on telly the other day, so he hasn't be stoned to death by the elders yet, fingers crossed they don't catch him soon.

[David Vincent]

The bible says homosexuals should be murdered yet we have openly gay men and women leading services in churches all over the country. A religion is as moderate as the people practising it would like it to be.

I met Waqar Younis at the Oval some years ago, him and his agent were on the beers during the last session (there was a bar right next to the changing room in the olden days, i think it is hospitality now). I saw him on telly the other day, so he hasn't be stoned to death by the elders yet, fingers crossed they don't catch him soon.

You heartless bar steward. You've probably just signed his death warrant.

[Wales-Bales]

The bible says homosexuals should be murdered yet we have openly gay men and women leading services in churches all over the country. A religion is as moderate as the people practising it would like it to be.

I met Waqar Younis at the Oval some years ago, him and his agent were on the beers during the last session (there was a bar right next to the changing room in the olden days, i think it is hospitality now). I saw him on telly the other day, so he hasn't be stoned to death by the elders yet, fingers crossed they don't catch him soon.

The religion switch was consciously turned off in Britain sometime in the 1960's. If you want to know what happened when it was still turned on, just research what happened to Alan Turing.

[tigerbaybluebird]

Beer! I don't think you have met many Muslims. According to the Koran the punishment for apostasy is death. So this will ensure that most Muslims remain Muslims. They will turn the UK into an overpopulated hellhole like every other Muslim country. They are not interested in looking after where they live because for them Earth is a just a kind of waiting room where they kill some time (and infidels) before they ascend into Heaven.

I've friends, neighbours and even family who are Muslim and YOU are taking shit


Now **** off

[David Vincent]

I've friends, neighbours and even family who are Muslim and YOU are taking shit


Now **** off

I don't care whether you, your budgie or your boyfriend is Muslim. What does that prove? That apostasy is punishable with death is a fact.

"...for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
Sahih Bukhari Volume 009, Book 084, Hadith Number 057

I'm not going to stop posting because you can't handle the truth.

[Organ Morgan.]

Beer! I don't think you have met many Muslims. According to the Koran the punishment for apostasy is death. So this will ensure that most Muslims remain Muslims. They will turn the UK into an overpopulated hellhole like every other Muslim country. They are not interested in looking after where they live because for them Earth is a just a kind of waiting room where they kill some time (and infidels) before they ascend into Heaven.

Dai, remain calm in your bath chair. A Muslim majority in the UK is decades away. If your progeny are like mine then they don't care. Apathy rules.

And anyway, there would be some plusses in a Saudi-like Sharia system: no more usury, ditto for sodomites and every thief caught will be minus an arm.

[David Vincent]

Dai, remain calm in your bath chair. A Muslim majority in the UK is decades away. If your progeny are like mine then they don't care. Apathy rules.

And anyway, there would be some plusses in a Saudi-like Sharia system: no more usury, ditto for sodomites and every thief caught will be minus an arm.

I can't see them getting rid of sodomy. After all the alpha men have taken three or four wives there will not be enough women to go around. That's part of the problem now - too many young men without wives or goats.

[Wales-Bales]

What do you think an majority Muslim Britain in 21xx will look like? Like Raqqa?

My best guess is it will look much like Christian Britain now where the majority of people pretend to be religious but in reality have better things to do. That is what happens when people get money, interesting jobs, leisure activities, beer, etc.

You are totally wrong.

[Eric Cartman]

You are totally wrong.

Explain.

[Wales-Bales]

Explain.

severncity already explained it. Once the Islamic elders take over it will not be as you described, just look at history.

[LordKenwyne]

Our future will be Islam. This will not make much difference. They will be in the majority eventually whether the average number of children is three, five or fifty.

The fear of the "turk", and foreigners was far worse centuries ago than it is now.

our future definitely is not islam.

the Abrahamic religions will probably die off.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

The fear of the "turk", and foreigners was far worse centuries ago than it is now.

our future definitely is not islam.

the Abrahamic religions will probably die off.

From my travels in Muslim countries I would say that religion has more traction there than Christianity has in countries in Europe - as it seems to demand more commitment. Mosques call people to prayer are pretty invasive and there seems to be less separation between state and religion. Happy to be corrected if my impression is wrong or skewed in any way.

[Wales-Bales]

From my travels in Muslim countries I would say that religion has more traction there than Christianity has in countries in Europe - as it seems to demand more commitment. Mosques call people to prayer are pretty invasive and there seems to be less separation between state and religion. Happy to be corrected if my impression is wrong or skewed in any way.

I would agree with this. The Muslim countries have religious leaders telling the government what to do, while we in the west have the freemasons. Religion in the west has also been sidelined due to a steady bombardment of propaganda going back to the 60's. People may assume that their views on things such as sex and religion are their own, but they are not.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I would agree with this. The Muslim countries have religious leaders telling the government what to do, while we in the west have the freemasons. Religion in the west has also been sidelined due to a steady bombardment of propaganda going back to the 60's. People may assume that their views on things such as sex and religion are their own, but they are not.

Let's hope that religion has been sidelined as it's errant nonsense.

[Eric Cartman]

I would agree with this. The Muslim countries have religious leaders telling the government what to do, while we in the west have the freemasons. Religion in the west has also been sidelined due to a steady bombardment of propaganda going back to the 60's. People may assume that their views on things such as sex and religion are their own, but they are not.

Or because it is all based upon there being a man in sky who created the earth and barely anyone ****ing believes it.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I would agree with this. The Muslim countries have religious leaders telling the government what to do, while we in the west have the freemasons. Religion in the west has also been sidelined due to a steady bombardment of propaganda going back to the 60's. People may assume that their views on things such as sex and religion are their own, but they are not.

It gets very confusing trying to understand who is running the world. The Freemasons, The New World Order, The Illuminati, The Bilderbergers or Aunt Fanny's Knitting Club?

[severncity]

It is a pretty crazy plan for the Turkish president to urge upon EU-based Turks. It will only create division and fear.

[Eric Cartman]

What kind of debate do you want to have about this?