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    Re: Arm our officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Almost impossibly naive of you. For a guy who has a buddy for every occasion I'd have thought you'd be a bit more worldly.

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    great thread, totally derailed but non the less

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    great thread, totally derailed but non the less
    How is it derailed? The OP was about giving all the police guns and that's still what's being talked about.

    If anything, people like you steaming into the thread shouting "bollocks" like a drunkard and accusing people of being angry for no reason is the closest this thread came to derailment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    How is it derailed? The OP was about giving all the police guns and that's still what's being talked about.

    If anything, people like you steaming into the thread shouting "bollocks" like a drunkard and accusing people of being angry for no reason is the closest this thread came to derailment.
    really, you talked bollocks and later apologised, thread is just tennis between mickey mouse and the rest. for what its worth mickey is wrong but he cant see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    really, you talked bollocks and later apologised, thread is just tennis between mickey mouse and the rest. for what its worth mickey is wrong but he cant see it
    I apologised for the brash phrasing I used in the light of yesterdays events, the point I was making is valid.

    Maybe if thread derailment is a concern for you, next time you'll take the time to articulate your thoughts rather than bursting in just shouting "bollocks" as if it's helpful to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    I apologised for the brash phrasing I used in the light of yesterdays events, the point I was making is valid.

    Maybe if thread derailment is a concern for you, next time you'll take the time to articulate your thoughts rather than bursting in just shouting "bollocks" as if it's helpful to anyone.
    as a a retired met officer who was an AFO for 15 years my articulate thoughts are that the police don't need or want to be fully armed, what they need is enough armed response to deal with situations that arise, not a problem in London but obviously an issue in other smaller forces, carrying a weapon is a huge responsibility with the onus on you to justify your actions taken in the split second of an incident perhaps to a jury months later when what you did can be minutely examined, not everyone wants that responsibility, we've seen previous threads on this board with people asking why didn't they shoot to wound sums up the predicament nicely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    as a a retired met officer who was an AFO for 15 years my articulate thoughts are that the police don't need or want to be fully armed, what they need is enough armed response to deal with situations that arise, not a problem in London but obviously an issue in other smaller forces, carrying a weapon is a huge responsibility with the onus on you to justify your actions taken in the split second of an incident perhaps to a jury months later when what you did can be minutely examined, not everyone wants that responsibility, we've seen previous threads on this board with people asking why didn't they shoot to wound sums up the predicament nicely
    Now that's a great contribution, nicely said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    as a a retired met officer who was an AFO for 15 years my articulate thoughts are that the police don't need or want to be fully armed, what they need is enough armed response to deal with situations that arise, not a problem in London but obviously an issue in other smaller forces, carrying a weapon is a huge responsibility with the onus on you to justify your actions taken in the split second of an incident perhaps to a jury months later when what you did can be minutely examined, not everyone wants that responsibility, we've seen previous threads on this board with people asking why didn't they shoot to wound sums up the predicament nicely
    As an ex copper of 13 years who left in 2014 I agree with above . I didnt want to be armed and some ( not the majority ) I wouldn't trust with a stapler. One Copper who was desperate to be armed used to play shooting games at home all night, thank **** he failed the tests otherwise he'd have been Maniac Cop meets Tackleberry from Police academy.
    I think more Cops should be trained up, and also personally think there should be more Cops full stop.

    Ironic Theresa May praising them yesterday when her and Tom Winsor have been ****ing over the various Police organisations over the country since 2010.

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    Re: Arm our officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    as a a retired met officer who was an AFO for 15 years my articulate thoughts are that the police don't need or want to be fully armed, what they need is enough armed response to deal with situations that arise, not a problem in London but obviously an issue in other smaller forces, carrying a weapon is a huge responsibility with the onus on you to justify your actions taken in the split second of an incident perhaps to a jury months later when what you did can be minutely examined, not everyone wants that responsibility, we've seen previous threads on this board with people asking why didn't they shoot to wound sums up the predicament nicely
    welcome to the thread, even though disagree with me

    as you say, the answer must be to have more ARU's, i have used rural area's as a example, over 30 mins ETA to the furthest town in the county

    you mention not all would want to be armed, what type of % do you think it would be ? ? ( I am planning to ask my mate this tomorrow ) i have mentioned in this thread the bloke next door using his tazer and the comebacks on it, he is still worried about it now

    I have sent this thread to a AR Officer in the met, he has replied to me, that he will read it later

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