I'm not a big fan of guns but I think it's time we armed all police officers. Too close to home today :(
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I'm not a big fan of guns but I think it's time we armed all police officers. Too close to home today :(
Originally Posted by Spearsy
Rubbish
As terrrible as things were today we reacted fantastically to it and my faith in our security has only been strengthened by today
Its the obvious and understandable reaction but Im not convinced that routine arming is the way forward. Anyway, from the pics Ive seen a lot of the cops were carrying guns.
that area of london would have had Armed Officers walking around on patrol and they have a massive amount of trained officers ready to use arms, the ARU in central london is a fair size
Now imagine something similar happening in a sleepy small town in Gloucester or Somerset, the ARU might take 30 mins to arrive on the scene and then it will likely only be 6 of them, think of the damage someone could do in 30 minsa scary thought
i know the government has said they are training up more AR officers, but not enough and not fast enough
I would suppose the numbers of officers in London is vastly different even to the number in a smaller city and therefore before you have "massive amount of trained officers ready to use arms" you firstly would need to find a large number of new recruits and pay for these contracts.that area of london would have had Armed Officers walking around on patrol and they have a massive amount of trained officers ready to use arms, the ARU in central london is a fair size
Now imagine something similar happening in a sleepy small town in Gloucester or Somerset, the ARU might take 30 mins to arrive on the scene and then it will likely only be 6 of them, think of the damage someone could do in 30 mins
i know the government has said they are training up more AR officers, but not enough and not fast enough
If we think about what this incident was (a small and limited number of attackers in a concentrated area) then we may compare it to the Tunisia beach attacks. The greater presences of armed forces in this previous incident did not stop the attacker any more quickly that today.
Whatever the decision I would agree with the poster who suggested that a few hours after an attack is probably not the time for major policy change.
Sorry but all I see by arming the police is creating opportunities for would be terrorists
All a terrorist needs to do is overpower one bobby then he can go popping caps in farrrrrrrr more people than a crazy with a knife could stab
Bad idea all round
from what i understand, the government are training more AR officers, we of course need more Police, but the police we have could be trained and armed
a fairly poor example, as the armed security in Tunisia is hardly the same as our trained AR Officers
of course you will never stop these attacks, i have never said we can, but giving the police a fighting chance can only help imho
but it is something i think we need to look into
Agree with Colonel on this, they've got tasers which should be adequate to disable a knife-wielding maniac.
I thought they do already?? Saw a few in the Hayes the other day with guns in display.....it will be routine soon. I'm afraid bush and Blair have phucked the world as we know it well up.....it's only going to get worse.....
Holy shit is this a bad idea.
Why?
The main problem with routinely arming the police is that the bad guys will also arm themselves.
UK becomes like the USA in no time.
Agreed - and I can tell you from first hand - you do not want to live in an environment where guns become everyday items.
UK is special because we don't see guns as routine equipment.
but it isnt as easy in the UK to get a gun, we do not have them floating around in bars etc etc
Except in Newport of course
The guy had a car and a knifethat area of london would have had Armed Officers walking around on patrol and they have a massive amount of trained officers ready to use arms, the ARU in central london is a fair size
Now imagine something similar happening in a sleepy small town in Gloucester or Somerset, the ARU might take 30 mins to arrive on the scene and then it will likely only be 6 of them, think of the damage someone could do in 30 mins
i know the government has said they are training up more AR officers, but not enough and not fast enough
Casualties would have been similar in a sleepy town too
Careful, you'll be called a libtard in a minute.
but he would have continued to run around stabbing people, the armed officer shot him to stop him in london
so dont you think in that 30 mins he might have done more damage ? ? ?
A man with a knife would soon be over powered if people see a threat
In some circles, yes.
But many ordinary Joes would try to run off, thinking " let someone else tackle him!"
no they wouldn't. plenty of people put their own safety second in times like this.
even if you are right, the chances are the guy would have stabbed a fair few more people by then
yet if a armed PO was only a few mins away, people wouldnt have to " be a hero " and have a go, they would know, get out the way and in a few mins the police would arrive and put the guy down
I don't know what the solution to an arsehole with a knife is, but I know giving every superiority-complex meathead bobby a hand-cannon is going to cause more problems than it solves.
because is does in the US i guess ? ? ?
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