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    Warnock as adventurous as a nun

    Boring team selection, no experimentation, Lambert on the bench ffs!

    Even picking a loanee in goals makes no sense at this stage of the season.

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    Re: Warnock as adventurous as a nun

    I think he's trying to cement Harris, Hoilett and Manga into the team (Manga was impressive) and wanted to avoid a tonking (like we had this time last year under Slade) by putting Halford in front of the back four as a shield (as when Rotherham did a job on Wednesday last season).

    I agree it was a conservative and safe selection - but I think there were good reasons.

    What I can't understand is why he didn't start with Fred! You remember Fred? Our 'No 9'.

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    Re: Warnock as adventurous as a nun

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    Boring team selection, no experimentation, Lambert on the bench ffs!

    Even picking a loanee in goals makes no sense at this stage of the season.
    This match was not a dead rubber. Sheff Wed needed the points. Those in competition for a top 6 do not want teams 'not competing'. City almost took two points from them.

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    We lost by 1 goal to a team pushing for the top 6. Picked a side to do a job as we will have to do next year at some stage. Much rather we have a team comfortable with the formation and tactics rather than not be.

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    At this point in the season mid-table teams should still put out as strong a team as they can against teams who are competing for something, it would reflect very badly if we went with an experimental side, we got smashed 5-0 and Wednesday gained an advantage on someone else based on goal difference

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    Re: Warnock as adventurous as a nun

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    At this point in the season mid-table teams should still put out as strong a team as they can against teams who are competing for something, it would reflect very badly if we went with an experimental side, we got smashed 5-0 and Wednesday gained an advantage on someone else based on goal difference
    I don't remember you sticking up for the manager at the end of the 2014/15 season when he was criticised for not giving the youngsters a chance. Let's face it Warnock is not interested in up and coming players.

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    He picked his usual away side and tactic and simply kept the side intact it contained a good Wednesday side , sounded like it nearly worked as well .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    I don't remember you sticking up for the manager at the end of the 2014/15 season when he was criticised for not giving the youngsters a chance. Let's face it Warnock is not interested in up and coming players.
    Are you suggesting that Slade was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    I don't remember you sticking up for the manager at the end of the 2014/15 season when he was criticised for not giving the youngsters a chance. Let's face it Warnock is not interested in up and coming players.

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    Re: Warnock as adventurous as a nun

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Are you suggesting that Slade was?
    I can't discuss the person you mentioned.

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    I expect a few nuns might take issue with this heading.

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    Re: Warnock as adventurous as a nun

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    At this point in the season mid-table teams should still put out as strong a team as they can against teams who are competing for something, it would reflect very badly if we went with an experimental side, we got smashed 5-0 and Wednesday gained an advantage on someone else based on goal difference
    You're right, I've seen it called the integrity of the league - there is an obligation on managers of mid table sides to put out as strong a team as possible when they are playing a side with something still left in their season. Therefore, I owe Russell Slade a partial apology for persistently accusing him of wasting an opportunity to field youngsters during the last two months of the 14/15 season. I can remember us playing a Millwall side battling, unsuccessfully as it turned out, against the drop in our penultimate home game that season and there would have been criticism from others in the relegation issue at the time if we had picked an experimental team and lost that match.

    We also played play off chasing Brentford and Ipswich during that period, so they were other matches where Slade's selections could be understood, but the reason I only said a partial apology is that we also faced Charlton, Birmingham, Reading, Bolton, Leeds, already relegated Blackpool and Forest in games that had little or nothing riding on them during that period and Slade resolutely failed to give youth a chance - he is the worst City manager I've seen up until now as far as youth development is concerned.

    As for Neil Warnock, it's very easy to forget how annoyed he was with other managers who he thought picked weakened sides against other relegation candidates when his Sheffield United team went down from the Premier League in 06/07 I think it was. He has spoken of hoping to give players like Harris and Meite some game time in our remaining matches if he is able to. When I first heard him say that I was puzzled, because I thought it was entirely his own decision as to who he picked, but it makes sense if he is thinking that he doesn't want to do to other teams what he believes others did to him ten years ago.

    Anyway, by including the likes of Harris and Meite in the squad in many of our recent matches and giving the former his first team debut in an FA Cup match, Warnock has already shown more willingness to get young players involved than Slade ever did and he's also selected a side that had more of an experimental look to it for the "nothing" game at Barnsley recently than anything Slade ever picked.
    Last edited by the other bob wilson; 15-04-17 at 04:04.

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    Re: Warnock as adventurous as a nun

    Interesting re the 'integrity of the league' doctrine.
    I'd never heard that expressed before.

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