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    Re: The Way to an Independent and Prosperous Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Which part is untrue?
    So, to try and get people on side you describe them as scared and contrary. Nice way to go.

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    Re: The Way to an Independent and Prosperous Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    So, to try and get people on side you describe them as scared and contrary. Nice way to go.
    Again, which part is untrue? Like I said, sometimes people need to hear something they might not necessarily like to hear.

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    Re: The Way to an Independent and Prosperous Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Again, which part is untrue? Like I said, sometimes people need to hear something they might not necessarily like to hear.
    So telling people something they might not want to hear is a good way of putting over an argument? Er, no. Tell someone something they don't want to hear and they switch off.

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    Re: The Way to an Independent and Prosperous Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    So telling people something they might not want to hear is a good way of putting over an argument? Er, no. Tell someone something they don't want to hear and they switch off.
    OK, well if that was your point... thanks for the advice then I suppose

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    Re: The Way to an Independent and Prosperous Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    OK, well if that was your point... thanks for the advice then I suppose
    It was entirely the point. I never used to be an advocate of Welsh Independence until the Brexit result, but that has refocused the way I see Wales' place in a Britain that might be without Scotland and Northern Ireland. I don't agree with some of the argument you posted - for example the Welsh language being squashed out of existence. Much of the reason for the rapid decline in Welsh usage was due to immigration into Wales, the sheer volume of English (non-Welsh) speakers arriving into South Wales was always going to be detrimental to the language in the same way that Welsh emigrants living in Patagonia took over and all speak Welsh there.

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    Re: The Way to an Independent and Prosperous Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It was entirely the point. I never used to be an advocate of Welsh Independence until the Brexit result, but that has refocused the way I see Wales' place in a Britain that might be without Scotland and Northern Ireland. I don't agree with some of the argument you posted - for example the Welsh language being squashed out of existence. Much of the reason for the rapid decline in Welsh usage was due to immigration into Wales, the sheer volume of English (non-Welsh) speakers arriving into South Wales was always going to be detrimental to the language in the same way that Welsh emigrants living in Patagonia took over and all speak Welsh there.
    Sure, there are a number of reasons why a language might decline, in the instance of Welsh, repression by the authorities was one of them.

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