Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Yes, here's another opportunity for Wales to have no overall say in the result of a general election.

[PerryJason]

Yes, here's another opportunity for Wales to have no overall say in the result of a general election.

And that is exactly why we need to stick two fingers up to the English political parties

[Eric the Half a Bee]

And that is exactly why we need to stick two fingers up to the English political parties

It's incredible how many Welsh people say they would never vote Tory, but would sooner be ruled by a Tory government than by themselves.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

It's incredible how many Welsh people say they would never vote Tory, but would sooner be ruled by a Tory government than by themselves.

^THIS

We should all support Eric's bid for an independent Wales

[PerryJason]

^THIS

We should all support Eric's bid for an independent Wales

[Eric the Half a Bee]

^THIS

We should all support Eric's bid for an independent Wales

I'll be your right hand man!

[Heathblue]

Yes, here's another opportunity for Wales to have no overall say in the result of a general election.

But by voting Plaid they would give Leanne a mandate to carry on chipping away for a bit more of what Scotland has, but you know as well as me, put the red ribbon on a turd etc. etc. etc. They doos what their fathers told them to do at birth.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

But by voting Plaid they would give Leanne a mandate to carry on chipping away for a bit more of what Scotland has, but you know as well as me, put the red ribbon on a turd etc. etc. etc. They doos what their fathers told them to do at birth.

That applies in other areas to other parties. Take the Thames corridor, they do the same for a blue rosette.

Why should Wales put up with a government it doesn't vote for?

[Heathblue]

That applies in other areas to other parties. Take the Thames corridor, they do the same for a blue rosette.

Why should Wales put up with a government it doesn't vote for?

Because it doesn't have independence?, Surely the 1st step in getting rid of London rule would be to vote for a Welsh nationalist party ?.

[LordKenwyne]

Yes, here's another opportunity for Wales to have no overall say in the result of a general election.

How much of a say should Wales have?. We are 3 million in a union of over 60.

I am sure the north of england would like the devolved powers we have. They get the rawest deal out of the union according to return per head.

The tide is turning and people are realising labour rule for all eternity really has done very little for south wales. Maybe they will remain in place but at least now they are on their toes.

[CCFCPhil]

How much of a say should Wales have?. We are 3 million in a union of over 60.

I am sure the north of england would like the devolved powers we have. They get the rawest deal out of the union according to return per head.

The tide is turning and people are realising labour rule for all eternity really has done very little for south wales. Maybe they will remain in place but at least now they are on their toes.

The call for nationalism comes from those with the blood of Owain Glyndwr pumping through their veins. It's just a shame that none of it reaches their brains.

Wales gets the MPs it votes for. The same as every other region in the country. The problem with Wales is that there are too many safe seats. Those that are marginals tend to be between PC and Labour or Lib Dems and Tory. There are very few seats where it is a straight contest between the (current) two major parties.

Plaid got my vote in 2015 because they were coming up with policies that weren't centralised on the ridiculous notion that we as a "nation" can go it alone. Wales has no industry, no service sector, is heavily reliant on jobs created by central/local government and has the one of highest rates of low income earners in the UK. In 2011, the average wage in Wales was below £20,000.

If that were the case then the perceived "higher" earners would be on about £28,000. Plaid would have no option other than to tax people earning that decent (but not fantastic) wage 40% taxes reducing spending parity and crippling businesses.

Perhaps that is why Wales never votes for Nationalism, the electorate are perceived to be "stupid" but maybe they know exactly what is what.