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We should all support Eric's bid for an independent Wales
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We should all support Eric's bid for an independent Wales
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We should all support Eric's bid for an independent Wales
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We should all support Eric's bid for an independent Wales
But by voting Plaid they would give Leanne a mandate to carry on chipping away for a bit more of what Scotland has, but you know as well as me, put the red ribbon on a turd etc. etc. etc. They doos what their fathers told them to do at birth.
That applies in other areas to other parties. Take the Thames corridor, they do the same for a blue rosette.
Why should Wales put up with a government it doesn't vote for?
Because it doesn't have independence?, Surely the 1st step in getting rid of London rule would be to vote for a Welsh nationalist party ?.
How much of a say should Wales have?. We are 3 million in a union of over 60.
I am sure the north of england would like the devolved powers we have. They get the rawest deal out of the union according to return per head.
The tide is turning and people are realising labour rule for all eternity really has done very little for south wales. Maybe they will remain in place but at least now they are on their toes.
Last edited by LordKenwyne; 19-04-17 at 07:26.
The call for nationalism comes from those with the blood of Owain Glyndwr pumping through their veins. It's just a shame that none of it reaches their brains.
Wales gets the MPs it votes for. The same as every other region in the country. The problem with Wales is that there are too many safe seats. Those that are marginals tend to be between PC and Labour or Lib Dems and Tory. There are very few seats where it is a straight contest between the (current) two major parties.
Plaid got my vote in 2015 because they were coming up with policies that weren't centralised on the ridiculous notion that we as a "nation" can go it alone. Wales has no industry, no service sector, is heavily reliant on jobs created by central/local government and has the one of highest rates of low income earners in the UK. In 2011, the average wage in Wales was below £20,000.
If that were the case then the perceived "higher" earners would be on about £28,000. Plaid would have no option other than to tax people earning that decent (but not fantastic) wage 40% taxes reducing spending parity and crippling businesses.
Perhaps that is why Wales never votes for Nationalism, the electorate are perceived to be "stupid" but maybe they know exactly what is what.
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Stick a blue rosette on a pig where I live and the Tories would still get in.
I think one got to be PM?
Thinly veiled "Tory's f*ck pigs" post IMO
It's such a shame that there are no 'genuine' alternatives
Last edited by waynekerr55; 19-04-17 at 13:43.
In the valleys labour wouldn't even need to put anyone up for election.
Just plonk an empty chair at the local hustings and people would side with it.
very true
Too true
Alternative = Boris Johnson, Farage, Brexit, bigotry, international rep for beings (even bigger) kynts etc etc.
You're United Kingdom is a farce. Move on. Move forward. On your own two feet.
You are United Kingdom
Let June be the end of May
Who would you like to see replace her?
[QUOTE=Alfonso Perez;4734848]Who would you like to see replace her?[/QUOTE
A proper socialist Labour Government although Corbyn is not the right man but he is better than that God awful woman
[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4734851]Corbyn would be a disaster as he has proved time & time again that he is incapable of leading the labour party, never mind the country. If elected he would not even be able to appoint the best cabinet as some of his most talented MP's do not want to work with him which has resulted in 2nd rate politicians like Diane Abbott getting a top job in the shadow cabinet. Notwithstanding the fact that I don't agree with some of May's actions & policies, if I had to choose between her & Corbyn, then it's May every time for me. If the polls are to believed then this election could be a blessing as it could see the end of Corbyn & labour can then elect a decent leader who can take the party forward & be a real opposition to the tories for the next 5 years
[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4734851]No he really isn't
[QUOTE=Alfonso Perez;4734855]The problem with that is we will have five more years of seeing the NHS wrecked, state schools starved of funds, more homeless, more targetting of the disabled with further welfare cutbacks etc etc. Is that a country you want to live in?
[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4734859]I want to live in a much more balanced & fairer society but I also want to live in a country which is not bankrupted by a party who are ill-equipped to govern. In fairness to May she is working off Cameron's manifesto & this election gives her a chance to produce her own & to demonstrate that she is serious about building a country which works for everyone as she has regularly stated as a key aim of hers. I really wish that there was stronger opposition to the tories but i'm afraid that in my view this is far from the case. As things stand I honestly cannot see labour even getting close to winning so the best I am hoping for is that this election galvanises them to unite behind a very good leader who can take them forward in the next few years
[QUOTE=Alfonso Perez;4734869]If we're honest, the current incumbents are doing a finer job of bankrupting us than Labour ever did. Debt is rising and growth has been stifled.
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