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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    The last election cost the public purse 100 million not a moan from any party ,lol.
    A sickening amount of money.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    A sickening amount of money.
    Less than a couple of quid per head of population.....

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    I like his politics and he seems like a decent bloke, but Corbyn has got to go as he's simply not a leader. It seems almost a certainty that the tories will win a landslide and Corbyn will walk anyway and Labour can elect a new leader this summer to unify the party and build up the fight for the next election.

    But I hate the fact that Cardiff North is tory. It'll only take a swing of around 2,000 votes to get rid of Craig Williams, the condescending little Tory shitbag. So it's Labour for me.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    We are going to get hammered but there you go , I wouldn't vote Tory if it was my last day on this planet
    well done Sluidge. I hate the feckers too.Lying bastards.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    We are going to get hammered but there you go , I wouldn't vote Tory if it was my last day on this planet
    Labour for me too.

    The LibDems will win my constituency (Clegg), Labour will be hammered, the Kippers will implode, Theresa May will get her massively increased majority, Corbin may well walk the plank, but it will be all to fight for in 5 years time. It will be very grim times at the bottom and more incompetence at the top. But there will be cheap holidays abroad in Scotland - silver lining!

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    It was Labour (shock horror) that introduced tuition fees 1998 - in case you missed it.

    If there were fewer kids going to university - maybe the Govt could to help with finance. But we want more kids in universities dont we ? so what would you cut or tax raise in order to get your daughters fees paid ?

    Did you vote for Blair knowing he was going to introduce tuition fees ?
    Yes I agree with you on this. It was Blair's Government that brought in tuition fees in an attempt to make it possible for there to be a huge increase in under graduates without encumbering the state with all of the costs.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Yes I agree with you on this. It was Blair's Government that brought in tuition fees in an attempt to make it possible for there to be a huge increase in under graduates without encumbering the state with all of the costs.
    Only it completely capitalised the system and universities no longer value their courses, taking on any bum if they throw money at them.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Yes I agree with you on this. It was Blair's Government that brought in tuition fees in an attempt to make it possible for there to be a huge increase in under graduates without encumbering the state with all of the costs.
    the policy aim was to reduce youth unemployment. it was shifting the goalposts - political gain whilst lumbering hundreds of thousands of people with massive debt.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    the policy aim was to reduce youth unemployment. it was shifting the goalposts - political gain whilst lumbering hundreds of thousands of people with massive debt.
    Spot on!

    The technical education reforms are 20 years too late.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    Is there anyone worth voting for this time?

    A gormless vampire she-robot backed by a bunch of inbred posh dullards or a clueless boring beardy bloke and a motley collection of nobodies who are only there by default because everyone else has stabbed him in the back.

    I suppose we could always back an each way outsider? How about the liberal Sunday school teacher who looks like that kid in school who had to eat special food and stay indoors due to his allergies? Perhaps that bullshitting Eddie Hitler from UKIP? (who don't actually have a purpose any more).

    I guess that leaves Plaid and the Greens - so either a party that sees having S4C and Welsh road signs as the key to success or some bloke in an itchy jumper banging on about how my fridge is killing the planet.

    I think I'm going to vote for Sludge this time - I'll just add his name to the bottom of the list. I'm sure nobody will mind.
    That's absolute quality.
    Summed it up perfectly.

    I'm a swing voter. I vote for which party I think will do the best job for the next 5 years .

    I think I know which way I'll go this time, but it's increasingly becoming the lesser of the evils which some of the parties in their current forms present

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    We are going to get hammered but there you go , I wouldn't vote Tory if it was my last day on this planet
    I'm also going to vote for the party of the working class...

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Yes, I know studen loans came in under Blair's gov. But I believe the seeds were sown by Major (I could be wrong)

    Taxation is ridiculoisly low these days - when I started work a basic rate-payer lost about a third of his pay.
    Not according to Mcdonald

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    You would vote Labour even if Jeremy Corbyn had just killed your kids - nothing like a man so narrow minded that they will never change their mind.

    Jeremy Corbyn went to a grammar school.... and yet he is opposed to them. His son also went, but I think that was JC's wife over ruling him....
    What is the purpose of your hypothetical scenario in paragraph 1?

    Paragraph 2 - I doubt that JC had much say on the matter and, being 11, I doubt that his politics were formed then.

    His marriage broke up over his son's education. I find that tragic, you find it amusing. A bit like the vicar's daughter.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    If the Tories had been in power in 2003 do you think they would have failed to back Bush? I don't think so.
    The likes of Murdoch and the hard right press need to be held to account too along with weak politicians on both sides of the house
    Theresa May voted WITH the Labour government in 2003. So, you are right, she would have backed Bush in 2003.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    I'm a life-long Labour voter, would never vote Tory in a million years.
    But something worries me about Jeremy.
    Hopefully he'll resign after the result.
    How you vote is up to you, but I can't understand the logic of voting for one party in a lifetime.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas View Post
    I like his politics and he seems like a decent bloke, but Corbyn has got to go as he's simply not a leader. It seems almost a certainty that the tories will win a landslide and Corbyn will walk anyway and Labour can elect a new leader this summer to unify the party and build up the fight for the next election.

    But I hate the fact that Cardiff North is tory. It'll only take a swing of around 2,000 votes to get rid of Craig Williams, the condescending little Tory shitbag. So it's Labour for me.
    Corbyn is seen as unelectable mainly because Rupert Murdoch wants them to think that way.

    Corbyn is a decent bloke, but I haven't got a clue what he thinks of the main topic in this election - Brexit.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Yes, I know studen loans came in under Blair's gov. But I believe the seeds were sown by Major (I could be wrong)

    Taxation is ridiculoisly low these days - when I started work a basic rate-payer lost about a third of his pay.
    We still do. I take home 64% of my pay but that's not including Council Tax and Road Tax.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I'm also going to vote for the party of the working class...
    Tory? Check Theresa Maybe's voting record.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    That isn't an argument.

    Blair didn't simply back bush they went hand in hand.

    In the coalition now you see the UK taking a back seat. Under Tory guidance they are not front line and centre.

    Labour took us to war costing hundreds of thousands of lives. & even after the beginning of the war they were voted back into power.

    Anti Tories always bring out the past, fundamentally evil. When you bring up Labour's past they claim it was outside influence poisoning the party.

    Labour voters grandstanding about morals died many moons ago.

    I suppose in 50-60 years time we can look back and thank the recent Labour party efforts for completely destroying our image abroad. Creating the scenario for the worst refugee crisis in 70 odd years. However many dead. Some of the oldest civilisations in existence decimated.
    The Toryparty (including Theresa May) backed Blair. More so than the voters - we didn't have a chance to vote on the Iraq war having elected Blair a second time in 2001 prior to 9/11.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    I have decided on my MP as opposed to the party this time. Jo Stephens left the front bench due to Corbyn's support of article 50 sonshes getting my vote.

    Jeremy Corbyn nice man or not is not up to job, he never wanted it. Hopefully next leader is someone far more tenacious in holding TM to account.

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    With Labour and UKIP imploding, Plaid (in Wales) and the Lib Dems could be the best tactical votes to ensure the Tory's don't get a 100+ majority

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    The Toryparty (including Theresa May) backed Blair. More so than the voters - we didn't have a chance to vote on the Iraq war having elected Blair a second time in 2001 prior to 9/11.
    Correct. It is also worth pointing out that many Labour MP's including Corbyn voted against the Iraq War.
    Its also rich from Lord K to suggest anti Tories always bring up the past. The Tories have been in power for seven years and still constantly hark back to the mess Labour left the country in. Time for them to stand on their own record. Its also nonsense to say the coaltion took a back seat. Does Libya ring any bells? Don't even get me started on Syria

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Theresa will do the Labour Party a big favour in June. After the projected and expected annihilation at the Election, he and his fellow Marxist/Leninists will be forced to stand down (* or will they?) and allow Labour to elect a viable and electable leader again. The British people will never vote for communists. As the attached article states, only 4 communists have ever been elected to Westminster and the last one was in 1945. If McDonnell & the rest of the entryists want that sort of government, they should stand as communist candidates, not use Labour as a front. The country needs a proper Opposition. This Corbyn fiasco has gone on too long.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...xactly-labour/

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    Re: I am voting Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    We are going to get hammered but there you go , I wouldn't vote Tory if it was my last day on this planet
    Even if they gave you lifetime membership to Choristers and carte blanche ability to book conference rooms with the real IRA?

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