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Thread: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

  1. #61

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCPhil View Post
    In your opinion. Not in the opinion of two PL managers.
    And where are they now?

    Gestede isn't a bad player, but he's not Premier League quality

  2. #62

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    And where are they now?

    Gestede isn't a bad player, but he's not Premier League quality
    Where's Gestede now. I'll give you a clue, playing at a much higher level than Cardiff fans thought he could. Same fans criticising Cornelius off the back of a few sub appearances.

  3. #63

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    Where's Gestede now. I'll give you a clue, playing at a much higher level than Cardiff fans thought he could. Same fans criticising Cornelius off the back of a few sub appearances.
    And about to be relegated back down to the Championship, having been relegated last season as well

  4. #64

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Bit of history rewriting going on here. Cornelius was not even good enough to be an apology for a footballer when with us.

    I'm going to suggest he might be slightly better now but I'd still not want him over Zohore based on what I saw him unable to do with my own eyes.

  5. #65

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Cornelius was a total waste of space. Rumours about him being homesick and this that and the other. Kids his age are going off to fight in wars, and he was whinging about coming to Cardiff and earning 30 grand a weak. I hope he breaks his leg in serie a. Fuking g fraud

  6. #66

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    And about to be relegated back down to the Championship, having been relegated last season as well
    43 games in the EPL and still yet to finish on the winning side.

    In all fairness he's breaking Premiership records. Utter garbage

  7. #67

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Penarth Blues View Post
    Bit of history rewriting going on here.
    http://http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/cardiff-chief-executive-simon-lim-slams-former-manager-malky-mackay-over-imprudent-and-careless-9127535.html

    Comment from Paul Lim in 2014: "To commit the club to a significant cost and liability over a five year contract for one player is not prudent, especially as he was not to contribute to our success now, but was for the future."

  8. #68

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    Where's Gestede now. I'll give you a clue, playing at a much higher level than Cardiff fans thought he could. Same fans criticising Cornelius off the back of a few sub appearances.
    I remember Kenny Dalglish commenting how he rated Gestede after the Carling cup final.

  9. #69

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    My impression is that, of Rudy Gestede and Fraizer Campbell, more City fans prefer Campbell. Both Campbell and Gestede have made 17 Premier League starts since leaving Cardiff City, while Gestede has come off the bench 4 more times than Campbell. Gestede has scored 6 PL goals since leaving us, Campbell 5.

    In terms of goals at least, it could be argued that Gestede is marginally the better striker. I can't say I was the greatest fan of either of them and I'm not looking to put up a case for Gestede, but thought I'd leave that with you.

  10. #70

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    With the Cornelius to Atalanta deal now done and no mention of us receiving any sell on clause we once again see another example of Vincent Tans business prowess.

    The guy is a well connected idiot of the highest order

    Good luck Acorn go show him up further for the fool he is

  11. #71

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    With the Cornelius to Atalanta deal now done and no mention of us receiving any sell on clause we once again see another example of Vincent Tans business prowess.

    The guy is a well connected idiot of the highest order

    Good luck Acorn go show him up further for the fool he is
    In fairness it's not just Tan who never puts sell on clause (assuming he hasn't), I really can't remember the last player we sold we put a sell on clause on under any owner

  12. #72

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by darran1927 View Post
    In fairness it's not just Tan who never puts sell on clause (assuming he hasn't), I really can't remember the last player we sold we put a sell on clause on under any owner
    To be honest I never thought for a moment he would have. He was only concerned in proving a point about Malky.
    It was suggested on here by a few that we would be quids in however but the silence suggests otherwise

  13. #73

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    With the Cornelius to Atalanta deal now done and no mention of us receiving any sell on clause we once again see another example of Vincent Tans business prowess.

    The guy is a well connected idiot of the highest order

    Good luck Acorn go show him up further for the fool he is
    Be patient, it took quite a while for the Bale money to come through.

  14. #74

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The debate doesn't seem to be whether he can set the world alight or not, but if he can kick a ball let alone is he good enough to be a pro. 25 in 85 confirms that he is.

    He will always go down as one of our worst signings because he was too expensive and too raw, but he's clearly good enough to make a living in the game and at a level that the majority of players aren't good enough to reach.
    He will always go down as one of our worst signings because Vinny chose to make a really big fuss about it.

  15. #75

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    He will always go down as one of our worst signings because Vinny chose to make a really big fuss about it.
    Yeah I agree there. That statement that was put out was one of the lowest things City have ever done.

  16. #76

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    Bellamy has clearly been proved wrong on this one if the stories of what he said are true. Looks like our next manager doesn't recognise a talent when it's right in front of him!
    Without leaping to Bellamy's defence, he's only been proved wrong if he makes a success of his move to Atalanta. Cornelius has moved for around a third of what we paid for him as well. Nobody has come out well out of this, be it Mackay, Tan, Cornelius or Moody.

  17. #77

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Without leaping to Bellamy's defence, he's only been proved wrong if he makes a success of his move to Atalanta. Cornelius has moved for around a third of what we paid for him as well. Nobody has come out well out of this, be it Mackay, Tan, Cornelius or Moody.
    Bellamys alleged comments that he's the worst professional he'd seen are already proved nonsense considering he's now moved 3 times in multi million pound deals and scoring regularly in the Champions League too.
    The ridiculous fee that we paid for him has nothing to do with the poor kid himself so the blame certainly has nothing to do with him although I agree with the other 3 you mention

  18. #78

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    Bellamys alleged comments that he's the worst professional he'd seen are already proved nonsense considering he's now moved 3 times in multi million pound deals and scoring regularly in the Champions League too.
    The ridiculous fee that we paid for him has nothing to do with the poor kid himself so the blame certainly has nothing to do with him although I agree with the other 3 you mention
    He's basing it on what he saw at Cardiff and about his professionalism, not his talent. He's probably able to bully defenders in Denmark and the early rounds of the Champions League but he wouldn't be able to do that against Kompany or Terry. Personally, I don't think he will be a success in Atalanta but this presumably means we don't have to pay the final year of his wages and if we get a slice of his transfer fee, then good luck to him. Either way, it's happened and if we can claw back any of the money we lost, it's good news for us. I bet the club didn't budget for this.

  19. #79

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    I'm constructing a model (for my own interest) that compares the relative strengths of different leagues across Europe.
    The Danish league is a good fit with the SPL, or the Ukrainian league, and it's basically like a top championship club playing against a load of league one clubs if you are in the best club in those divisions.

    So if you think of Cornelius as a player who scored a shit load for Celtic as a teenager, went on a move to a bottom premier league club that didn't work out then returned to Celtic and continued to score before getting a move to Italy.

  20. #80

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    Summed up perfectly.
    He wasn't as rubbish as some made out.
    However for slightly more money we could have signed Wilfred Bony ( we were in for him before Swansea) and probably stated up and made a 10m profit.

    Spending most of your striker transfer budget on 'one for the future' when you best alternative is Campbell was total stupidity and cost Malky his job and ultimately our place at the top table IMHO.

  21. #81

    Re: Cornelius off to Serie 'A'....no fee mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbridge Blue View Post
    http://www.insidewelshfootball.co.uk...-italian-move/

    I know we thought he wasn't any good but is there any sell-on clause..
    Good for him - I hope that it works out for him.

    I'm interested to see how he gets on.

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