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    Re: Shootings in Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Untrue. They had wanted to surrender for months beforehand. Their only condition was that the Emperor remained.

    At no time before the dropping of the second bomb did the Japanese attempt to surrender, the most they were willing to do was an armistice with a return to pre war borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goslow View Post
    At no time before the dropping of the second bomb did the Japanese attempt to surrender, the most they were willing to do was an armistice with a return to pre war borders.
    The Americans would only accept unconditional surrender. This, some argue, prolonged the war. Others argue that it prevented future conflicts.

    The Japanese Council was split (after the first bomb) on whether to surrender conditionally. They were hoping to negotiate with Russia, who had only just declared war on the Japanese themselves. The military wanted to keep on fighting and when Hirohito ordered surrender, there was an attempt to overthrow him by the military. It's the Russian invasion that forced the Japanese to surrender -in my opinion. The Americans had two bombs and had used them both, and the Japanese had resisted surrender during the fire bombing campaign.

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    Re: Shootings in Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by goslow View Post
    At no time before the dropping of the second bomb did the Japanese attempt to surrender, the most they were willing to do was an armistice with a return to pre war borders.
    Here's an in-depth summary of events. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_weber.html

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    Re: Shootings in Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Here's an in-depth summary of events. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_weber.html
    90,000 dead from one bomb. The Yanks were evil. They simply wanted to see the true effects of the bomb, and we've been living with a background of fear of nuclear holocaust ever since.

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    Re: Shootings in Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCPhil View Post
    90,000 dead from one bomb. The Yanks were evil. They simply wanted to see the true effects of the bomb, and we've been living with a background of fear of nuclear holocaust ever since.
    + Cholera, Anthrax, Agent Orange and Napalm in Vietnam.

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    Re: Shootings in Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    + Cholera, Anthrax, Agent Orange and Napalm in Vietnam.

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    Re: Shootings in Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Here's an in-depth summary of events. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_weber.html
    "The Institute for Historical Review (IHR), founded in 1978, is an organization that once published articles and books promoting Holocaust denial, a practice which attracted notoriety to the IHR.[2][3][4][5][6] It was for many years considered by many scholars as the center of the international Holocaust denial movement.[2][7][8] IHR is widely regarded as antisemitic and as having links to neo-Nazi organizations. The Institute published the Journal of Historical Review until 2002, but now disseminates its materials through its website and via email. The Institute is affiliated with the Legion for the Survival of Freedom "

    I could pretend I'm surprised,but I'm not.

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