Shootings in Paris

[Silures]

Wow, what a rant, and what amazing leaps of fantasy you take.

OK - by your new definition of the word "nutters" then 100% of us were nutters. You were implying something else though, let's not pretend that you weren't.

You're also changing your definition of extremists. Do you not think it is possible to have extreme views (you quote Saudi Arabia) without becoming terrorists?

Then you're claiming I am making excuses for the religion. I make no excuses for anyone. Most religions advocate murder as a form of punishment, the Bible says an eye for an eye. Try staying factual, because you're coming across as a Daily Express reader at present, scared shitless of the world that you live in.

WTF are you on about. Iv never read the bible, I couldn't give a **** about the bible. And daily express reader. I don't even know what that is you prick. I watch bestgore try it sometime. Like I said, Fuk Islam and Fuk Muslims.

[Kris]

WTF are you on about. Iv never read the bible, I couldn't give a **** about the bible. And daily express reader. I don't even know what that is you prick. I watch bestgore try it sometime. Like I said, Fuk Islam and Fuk Muslims.

Definitely not a Daily Express reader, more likely the Beano.

[PerryJason]

WTF are you on about. Iv never read the bible, I couldn't give a **** about the bible. And daily express reader. I don't even know what that is you prick. I watch bestgore try it sometime. Like I said, Fuk Islam and Fuk Muslims.

#verydull

[Silures]

Controversial by design! The Americans only had two bombs at the time. The third one was a month away, and the fourth would have been dropped in November.

What a shame

[Kris]

What a shame

Welcome back to the board CCFC Casual.

[Silures]

Welcome back to the board CCFC Casual.

Thanks. Good to beback

[Silures]

Definitely not a Daily Express reader, more likely the Beano.

I still don't no what the **** youre on about. Jump in front of a bus you kunt

[Kris]

I still don't no what the **** youre on about. Jump in front of a bus you kunt

I'd love to, but the bus service around here is shit. I'd be waiting for 15 minutes.

[Something Blue]

Yes, three from Cardiff so we need to understand WHY three Cardiff born lads suddenly felt the need to go to another country to fight, and the go about curing the disease and not just treat (bomb) the symptoms.

Of course radicalisation is at the heart of this, it surely we have to ask why only a minority allow themselves to be radicalised?

What your suggesting is similar to condemning Catholic, like me, for the crimes of the IRA, and go find out why THEY were formed in the first place, I think you'll find a common theme there.

We need solutions, you're not offering any I'm afraid, just reproducing more rhetoric.

Sorry you think it's just rhetoric, I knew it wouldn't be long before catholics and the Irish were mentioned, you asked me to find out why THEY, we're formed I don't have to, THEY, were formed to unify the island of Ireland hence the name, so the Irish REPUBLICAN army, we're not exclusively dedicated to bringing in a Catholic state. However the ISLAMIC state is. There are NO solutions because you CANNOT find common ground with people who wish you dead if you do not follow Islam.
The minority are radicalised because they are against the state, any state, there is massive radicalisation in our prison system, because the radicalised want someone, anyone to blame.
The three from Cardiff attended a mosque who's imam has openly said that white women can be made their sexual slaves. They went to the same school I attended many years before so had similar education and opportunities as me. I would say they were radicalised because they were taught in the mosque that they were superior.
Sorry for the caps but you started it, I just put forward a different viewpoint to you. I'm happy to be wrong for the sake of future generations of my family. I'm not sure I am though.
we have a mayor in London who happens to be a Muslim I don't know if he follows Islam or thinks the Koran is God's word, but I do know that his reaction to people being murdered is get used to it.

[jon1959]

Sorry you think it's just rhetoric, I knew it wouldn't be long before catholics and the Irish were mentioned, you asked me to find out why THEY, we're formed I don't have to, THEY, were formed to unify the island of Ireland hence the name, so the Irish REPUBLICAN army, we're not exclusively dedicated to bringing in a Catholic state. However the ISLAMIC state is. There are NO solutions because you CANNOT find common ground with people who wish you dead if you do not follow Islam.
The minority are radicalised because they are against the state, any state, there is massive radicalisation in our prison system, because the radicalised want someone, anyone to blame.
The three from Cardiff attended a mosque who's imam has openly said that white women can be made their sexual slaves. They went to the same school I attended many years before so had similar education and opportunities as me. I would say they were radicalised because they were taught in the mosque that they were superior.
Sorry for the caps but you started it, I just put forward a different viewpoint to you. I'm happy to be wrong for the sake of future generations of my family. I'm not sure I am though.
we have a mayor in London who happens to be a Muslim I don't know if he follows Islam or thinks the Koran is God's word, but I do know that his reaction to people being murdered is get used to it.

You know that do you?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...yor-sadiq-khan

[Something Blue]

Yes I do actually, I can't link but if you can be bothered, to look it up the actual quote was its part and parcel of living in a major city.

[Something Blue]

[QUOTE=jon1959;4735684]You know that do you?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...yor-sadiq-khan[/QUO

Yes actually, I do, Khan has quoted on television that it is part and parcel of living in a big city. Look it up, not fake news its there from him on camera. Hardly Churchillian. The rest of your quote says implicitly, I don't know.

[TH63]

Sorry you think it's just rhetoric, I knew it wouldn't be long before catholics and the Irish were mentioned, you asked me to find out why THEY, we're formed I don't have to, THEY, were formed to unify the island of Ireland hence the name, so the Irish REPUBLICAN army, we're not exclusively dedicated to bringing in a Catholic state. However the ISLAMIC state is. There are NO solutions because you CANNOT find common ground with people who wish you dead if you do not follow Islam.
The minority are radicalised because they are against the state, any state, there is massive radicalisation in our prison system, because the radicalised want someone, anyone to blame.
The three from Cardiff attended a mosque who's imam has openly said that white women can be made their sexual slaves. They went to the same school I attended many years before so had similar education and opportunities as me. I would say they were radicalised because they were taught in the mosque that they were superior.
Sorry for the caps but you started it, I just put forward a different viewpoint to you. I'm happy to be wrong for the sake of future generations of my family. I'm not sure I am though.
we have a mayor in London who happens to be a Muslim I don't know if he follows Islam or thinks the Koran is God's word, but I do know that his reaction to people being murdered is get used to it.

I'm all for different viewpoints mate, but what's the solution?

Btw, the Provisional IRA, emerged in the 60's, pretty much as a defensive counter to what they saw as having their homeland colonised by a foreign country and persecution of (in the north) a religious minority. Any of this sounding familiar?

[Something Blue]

I'm all for different viewpoints mate, but what's the solution?

Btw, the Provisional IRA, emerged in the 60's, pretty much as a defensive counter to what they saw as having their homeland colonised by a foreign country and persecution of (in the north) a religious minority. Any of this sounding familiar?

I've already said that I don't believe there is a solution, However I'm a plumber so I don't know why you keep asking me. I do not know why you've posted about a religious minority at all, I'm sure you know that Muslims are not a minority in the middle east, I also don't think that the UK, France, USA, Germany, SWEDEN yes Sweden, are in the business of colonisation these days.
Sorry no it isn't familiar, we don't live in the 19th century.
It doesn't sound familiar, and please don't think you are conversing with a bigot. A link for you.
The Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA) is a militant, nationalist organisation which aims at ending British rule in Northern Ireland by violent means and at establishing a united Irish republic.

[TH63]

I've already said that I don't believe there is a solution, However I'm a plumber so I don't know why you keep asking me. I do not know why you've posted about a religious minority at all, I'm sure you know that Muslims are not a minority in the middle east, I also don't think that the UK, France, USA, Germany, SWEDEN yes Sweden, are in the business of colonisation these days.
Sorry no it isn't familiar, we don't live in the 19th century.
It doesn't sound familiar, and please don't think you are conversing with a bigot. A link for you.
The Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA) is a militant, nationalist organisation which aims at ending British rule in Northern Ireland by violent means and at establishing a united Irish republic.

I don't think for one minute that I'm conversing with a bigot mate, and fwiw I don't think a plumbers opinion is any less valid than anyone else's.
We have however seen some bigoted views here, and I guess my point is that if we just keep slagging off muslims, we're not going to improve things, in fact we risk further alienating that community and creating more resentment among those who could end up being radicalised. Hate breeds hate as it were.

[Silures]

90,000 dead from one bomb. The Yanks were evil. They simply wanted to see the true effects of the bomb, and we've been living with a background of fear of nuclear holocaust ever since.

The Yanks never started the war with the Japs. The Japs wanted it, they got what they deserved. As for the threat of a nuclear Holocaust. That threat is probably the only thing that's keeping the Savage human race from going full retard. I sometimes wish it would really kick off. A full scale nuclear war might save more people than all these scermishes that are constantly happening throughout the world

[CCFCPhil]

The Yanks never started the war with the Japs. The Japs wanted it, they got what they deserved. As for the threat of a nuclear Holocaust. That threat is probably the only thing that's keeping the Savage human race from going full retard. I sometimes wish it would really kick off. A full scale nuclear war might save more people than all these scermishes that are constantly happening throughout the world

They say cockroaches will survive the holocaust so at least it won't affect your post count.

[Gofer Blue]

The Yanks never started the war with the Japs. The Japs wanted it, they got what they deserved. As for the threat of a nuclear Holocaust. That threat is probably the only thing that's keeping the Savage human race from going full retard. I sometimes wish it would really kick off. A full scale nuclear war might save more people than all these scermishes that are constantly happening throughout the world

Are you for real? In your full-scale nuclear war those who aren't instantly vapourised or incinerated in the fireball will die a slow agonising death from third degree burns or radiation sickness. There will be no safe place on the planet unless you live in North Korea where they seem to believe they will survive! (It's skirmishes by the way).

[xsnaggle]

[QUOTE=Gofer Blue;4735717]Are you for real? In your full-scale nuclear war those who aren't instantly vapourised or incinerated in the fireball will die a slow agonising death from third degree burns or radiation sickness. There will be no safe place on the planet unless you live in North Korea where they seem to believe they will survive! (It's skirmishes by the way).[/QUOTe

Your death by radiation and burns quote is not accurate as neither is a foregone conclusion.
Radiation after a blast is caused by the debris and dust from the mushroom cloud dropping irradiated particles which then can give anyone surviving a blast radiation sickness,where ever that cloud blows. However, the mushroom and debris in the sky is caused by a groundburst, where the fireball touches the ground. If the explosion is an air burst there is now fallout and therefore no radiation sickness.
Why would an enemy do this? an air burst creates twice the blast and initial destruction which has more chance of nullifying all the defences in place, and it also means that the enemy can then occupy the ground because it is not contaminated.
Using an air burst weapon on N Korea for example might destroy infrastructure and kill those in the immediate blast range but there would no long term threat of radiation poisoning inflicted on the nation or its neighbours.
burns come from being exposed to the initial heat wave if you are in the open when the blast accurs, but anything between you and the blast will protect you, as the 'wall' of heat is extremely hot but very thin. burns after the fact are caused by fires started from gas and elctricity supplies being ruptured and starting fire.

[Gofer Blue]

[QUOTE=xsnaggle;4735829]

Are you for real? In your full-scale nuclear war those who aren't instantly vapourised or incinerated in the fireball will die a slow agonising death from third degree burns or radiation sickness. There will be no safe place on the planet unless you live in North Korea where they seem to believe they will survive! (It's skirmishes by the way).[/QUOTe

Your death by radiation and burns quote is not accurate as neither is a foregone conclusion.
Radiation after a blast is caused by the debris and dust from the mushroom cloud dropping irradiated particles which then can give anyone surviving a blast radiation sickness,where ever that cloud blows. However, the mushroom and debris in the sky is caused by a groundburst, where the fireball touches the ground. If the explosion is an air burst there is now fallout and therefore no radiation sickness.
Why would an enemy do this? an air burst creates twice the blast and initial destruction which has more chance of nullifying all the defences in place, and it also means that the enemy can then occupy the ground because it is not contaminated.
Using an air burst weapon on N Korea for example might destroy infrastructure and kill those in the immediate blast range but there would no long term threat of radiation poisoning inflicted on the nation or its neighbours.
burns come from being exposed to the initial heat wave if you are in the open when the blast accurs, but anything between you and the blast will protect you, as the 'wall' of heat is extremely hot but very thin. burns after the fact are caused by fires started from gas and elctricity supplies being ruptured and starting fire.

I think you have a very optimistic faith in the accuracy of nuclear weapons that the ensuing fireballs will magically not drag up irradiated matter from the ground regardless of the height of the detonation! I also ask myself (assuming as you say that the area is not heavily irradiated) what would there be left for the "enemy" to occupy other than a radioactive desert; indeed would there be any enemies left with the physical or mental capacity to occupy anything! This I believe is the crux of the matter. Aside from the scale of the physical destruction there will be the unbelievable trauma of coping with the millions of dead and tens of millions of injured people. As has been said: the living will envy the dead. Such will be the feeling of total despair that the number of suicides could well exceed the number of deaths directly attributable to the bomb itself!

[Silures]

They say cockroaches will survive the holocaust so at least it won't affect your post count.

Yeah. Shame on me for having better things to do than sit in front of the internet posting on here every day lol. Omg wish I had a post count as high as yours. I'd feel so cool then.....

[Kris]

Yeah. Shame on me for having better things to do than sit in front of the internet posting on here every day lol. Omg wish I had a post count as high as yours. I'd feel so cool then.....

Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

[Silures]

You know that do you?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...yor-sadiq-khan

Excellent film

[Something Blue]

You know that do you?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...yor-sadiq-khan

Sorry, I meant to quote to you but my reply is further down.

[Silures]

Are you for real? In your full-scale nuclear war those who aren't instantly vapourised or incinerated in the fireball will die a slow agonising death from third degree burns or radiation sickness. There will be no safe place on the planet unless you live in North Korea where they seem to believe they will survive! (It's skirmishes by the way).

Really? No where to hide? Fireballs? Well what the **** we waiting for. Let's get the fireworks started. although I'm sure humans would survive unfortunately, I'm mean we've survived a lot worse after all, like the toba eruption. And by the way. It's scermishes, when I've had a drink, so put your spell fairy wings away