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  1. #41

    Re: Corbyn 'borrowing' Trumps Speeches

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Yes I cannot deny how weak Labour politicians were in their public speaking during that campaign
    I just listened to radio wales this morning - when the Labour MP for Bridgend was asked about Labour defence policy etc. Jeremy will not use a preemptive first strike. Of what is your policy on a retaliation - would he order it - if the UK was hit - erm not sure. "We are having a strategic defence review"

    If you remember this is what Gordon Brown ordered back before the last but one election he lost when John Robertson was to do a "strategic defence review policy" - after the election - in other words - kick it into the long grass and use that as an excuse for any question on defence. Interesting to see what he said back in Feb this year https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...bertson-hutton

    The last 2 Govts have made many cut backs on the often over bloated defence budget - nowadays there seems to be more focus on cyber than anything else with it now being a tier 1 threat.

    Weirdly enough I half agree with Corbyn on the first strike issue but I think trident (or the equivalent) is going to have be a price to be paid - would rather it was spent elsewhere, and if we could all give them up the world would be a happier place (perhaps) - but that wont be happening any time soon the way things are going - so Jezza and the Labour party really do need to make a policy on this - rather than his fudging (again)

  2. #42

    Re: Corbyn 'borrowing' Trumps Speeches

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    I just listened to radio wales this morning - when the Labour MP for Bridgend was asked about Labour defence policy etc. Jeremy will not use a preemptive first strike. Of what is your policy on a retaliation - would he order it - if the UK was hit - erm not sure. "We are having a strategic defence review"

    If you remember this is what Gordon Brown ordered back before the last but one election he lost when John Robertson was to do a "strategic defence review policy" - after the election - in other words - kick it into the long grass and use that as an excuse for any question on defence. Interesting to see what he said back in Feb this year https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...bertson-hutton

    The last 2 Govts have made many cut backs on the often over bloated defence budget - nowadays there seems to be more focus on cyber than anything else with it now being a tier 1 threat.

    Weirdly enough I half agree with Corbyn on the first strike issue but I think trident (or the equivalent) is going to have be a price to be paid - would rather it was spent elsewhere, and if we could all give them up the world would be a happier place (perhaps) - but that wont be happening any time soon the way things are going - so Jezza and the Labour party really do need to make a policy on this - rather than his fudging (again)
    Yes I agree. For Corbyn to appear to be going back on Labour policy regarding Trident at the start of a General Election campaign is idiotic and self serving. Its Labour policy to back having Trident. Corbyn needs to accept it.

  3. #43

    Re: Corbyn 'borrowing' Trumps Speeches

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Yes I agree. For Corbyn to appear to be going back on Labour policy regarding Trident at the start of a General Election campaign is idiotic and self serving. Its Labour policy to back having Trident. Corbyn needs to accept it.
    He came a cropper on this last time as well during the leadership campaign, although no Labour voter seemed to care then - as he won.

    I dont think it will be so easy for him this time - unless of course - the majority of voters think the same as him ?

    I'm still amazed that Tony Blair and the Lib Dems have not 'come together' to form a Remain style second referendum party. I'm not fan of Blair - purely for personal Iraq reasons BUT I watched him yesterday give an interview - and like all Lawyers - he speaks very well and puts his case forward in an eloquent manner - which Corbyn really should follow - but like nearly all socialist - he ends shouting when he should be speaking

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