David Moyes charged over that slap comment

[LordKenwyne]

Laughable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39709322

[The Alien]

It is laughable.
Just goes to show what a sad world we live in.

[giddyblue]

cretin. id like to give him a fecking slap

[AfricanBluebird]

It is laughable.
Just goes to show what a sad world we live in.

Well it was a silly comment to make, especially that "she will need to be careful next time she visits the stadium". She asked a legitimate question and his response was silly.

However, surely someone could have just had a word with him and asked him to apologize. What a waste of time and resources going through a formal charge process when it could have all been sorted with a quiet word. It's not like he's tweeting threats to North Korea

[Rjk]

I'm guessing if i said that in work and anyone complained I'd be disciplined

[LordKenwyne]

I'm guessing if i said that in work and anyone complained I'd be disciplined

The main thing is she didn't complain.

This is entirely down to media coverage and faux outrage over a man making a joke with a women.

[Rjk]

The main thing is she didn't complain.

This is entirely down to media coverage and faux outrage over a man making a joke with a women.

Even if i had a joke with a woman in work and they didn't complain, but someone else did i would be disciplined.

I guess in her job there would be quite a lot of pressure on a female reporter not to complain about this sort of thing even if she was offended.

I don't think Moyes is sexist, but he's an idiot. I doubt any of the rest of us would make such a comment in such a public forum.

[Cleve van Leef]

A storm in a bra cup.

If the FA came down on serious offences they would have some credibility in this, but they don't.

[lardy]

The main thing is she didn't complain.

This is entirely down to media coverage and faux outrage over a man making a joke with a women.

Is it only a problem if the person its aimed at complains? What if they feel like they can't raise it because they fear the sack if they do? I'm not saying that's the case here but you don't have to think hard to imagine places where it might be. Is it not ok for someone else to speak up on their behalf?

[LordKenwyne]

Is it only a problem if the person its aimed at complains? What if they feel like they can't raise it because they fear the sack if they do? I'm not saying that's the case here but you don't have to think hard to imagine places where it might be. Is it not ok for someone else to speak up on their behalf?

Yes definitely. Otherwise some will be taken advantage of.

But this, it is just nothing. The fact remains that if he'd said it to a man nothing would've been made of it.

The equivalent in my day to day life would be me being disciplined for making a joke with a fedex driver or something Really I am in work, I should be formal and professional, but I assure you the communications are not!.

[lardy]

Yes definitely. Otherwise some will be taken advantage of.

But this, it is just nothing. The fact remains that if he'd said it to a man nothing would've been made of it.

The equivalent in my day to day life would be me being disciplined for making a joke with a fedex driver or something Really I am in work, I should be formal and professional, yet I assure you the communications are not!.

So if we want to pick on someone, we should make sure it's someone who can't fight back.

[Mrs Steve R]

The main thing is she didn't complain.

This is entirely down to media coverage and faux outrage over a man making a joke with a women.

This^ , I wouldn't have complained either, not unless I thought it was a genuine threat, I would have just laughed at him, if other people complained then they should mind their own business imo.

I'm imagining the same scenario on here, someone says something considered inappropriate to me, I laugh about it but other people report the post, what should admin do in that situation? I would feel pretty bad if someone got banned over something I was not even bothered about, I imagine that woman is feeling pretty awkward right now and a tad patronised.

[Cyclops]

I'm imagining the same scenario on here, someone says something considered inappropriate to me, I laugh about it but other people report the post, what should admin do in that situation? .

Seek you out and give you a damn good slapping.

I'm totally against slapping women - except when they deserve to be slapped, of course.

[Mrs Steve R]

Seek you out and give you a damn good slapping.

I'm totally against slapping women - except when they deserve to be slapped, of course.

Mike! He's picking on me.

[lardy]

This^ , I wouldn't have complained either, not unless I thought it was a genuine threat, I would have just laughed at him, if other people complained then they should mind their own business imo.

I'm imagining the same scenario on here, someone says something considered inappropriate to me, I laugh about it but other people report the post, what should admin do in that situation? I would feel pretty bad if someone got banned over something I was not even bothered about, I imagine that woman is feeling pretty awkward right now and a tad patronised.

People's jobs and careers is a bit different to anonymous posting on a messageboard.

[Mrs Steve R]

People's jobs and careers is a bit different to anonymous posting on a messageboard.

I think that's what they call 'mansplaining'

[DubaiDai]

I'm guessing if i said that in work and anyone complained I'd be disciplined

Or you might get a slap.....

[itkman]

It was the only right outcome. You can't got around saying things like that to anyone, especially when you're being filmed by national media, regardless of gender.

[LordKenwyne]

It was the only right outcome. You can't got around saying things like that to anyone, especially when you're being filmed by national media, regardless of gender.

Are you joking?.

I mean, people would be being fired all day every day if this we started disciplining employees over harmless jokes.

[itkman]

Are you joking?.

I mean, people would be being fired all day every day if this we started disciplining employees over harmless jokes.

I'm not sure what line of work you are in, but if I was giving a formal presentation and threatened to slap someone for asking a difficult question I'm quite sure I'd need to explain myself to my boss shortly afterwards.

[LordKenwyne]

I'm not sure what line of work you are in, but if I was giving a formal presentation and threatened to slap someone for asking a difficult question I'm quite sure I'd need to explain myself to my boss shortly afterwards.

Only post match interviews in football are not formal, at all. Moyes is not making a formal presentation to customers or shareholders, he is doing an off the cuff interview.

And often interviewer make jokes.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

He apologised. That was sufficient methinks.

[itkman]

Only post match interviews in football are not formal, at all. Moyes is not making a formal presentation to customers or shareholders, he is doing an off the cuff interview.

And often interviewer make jokes.

He was also representing his employer and profession in front of the national & world media.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Stuff like this does my head in, people are becoming such big babies over trivial stuff.

For all the grief he got over this he might as well have actually slapped her.

[lardy]

Stuff like this does my head in, people are becoming such big babies over trivial stuff.

For all the grief he got over this he might as well have actually slapped her.

It's blown out of proportion, and I realise the irony of me saying that after making about half a dozen posts in this thread, but having worked with bullies who think they're above punishment and can get away with passive-agressive intimidation, I think the minimal grief he's had is justified.

Though it's the 'she didn't complain' comments that I mainly disagree with.