How much do you need to earn these days for decent life???

[life on mars]

Grand a month to cover bills?

I live in Merthyr with a 400 quid a month mortgage and my bills are 1200!!!!

I know young folk earning 30k to 40k with kids who find it tough, ie no free cash , however there is a new "tough now " , tough now includes having a car maybe two , high end mortgage in a nice area , £30 pounds a month mobile contracts x 2 , subscriptions,must have two holiday a year. ,I'm not critical ,just seems that the new poor have a lot more than I can remember poor having in the late 60's and 70's , interestingly back then buying consumer goods and day day shopping was expensive , as you had no real big supermarkets selling cheaper clothing for the kids , and no access to credit cards ,and benefits and state aid was hard to come by .

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

I know young folk earning 30k to 40k with kids who find it tough, ie no free cash , however there is a new "tough now " , tough now includes having a car maybe two , high end mortgage in a nice area , £30 pounds a month mobile contracts x 2 , subscriptions,must have two holiday a year. ,I'm not critical ,just seems that the new poor have a lot more than I can remember poor having in the late 60's and 70's , interestingly back then buying consumer goods and day day shopping was expensive , as you had no real big supermarkets selling cheaper clothing for the kids , and no access to credit cards ,and benefits and state aid was hard to come by .

Very true.