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  1. #81

    Re: This Tory campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Labour are treating it like a normal General Election - when it isnt

    There are 2 questions that have to be answered :-
    Who do you want negotiating Brexit
    Who do you want as a PM
    The answer to that is the conversation needs to be shifted. It needs to be about the NHS. It needs to be about our underfunded public services. It needs to be about the wealth divide that keeps growing.

  2. #82

    Re: This Tory campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    The answer to that is the conversation needs to be shifted. It needs to be about the NHS. It needs to be about our underfunded public services. It needs to be about the wealth divide that keeps growing.
    Spot on.

  3. #83

    Re: This Tory campaign

    Eric - resources are resources - there is only so much we take in tax, if you want to spend more - you can cut services and / or increase taxes.

    Corbyn is telling everyone there will be jam today and jam tomorrow - if that was true - every Govt would do it - simples.

    It's not that easy though is it - put up taxes and you need to be mindful of what it damages. The corporation tax rate was lowered and the tax take went UP!

    There was an interesting fact the other day - the higher rate tax payers pay over 75% of the tax. If you are on a lower wage - you now dont pay tax until after 12k (it used to be about 5.5k for most people)

    Any (responsible) politician is going to find it difficult after the election. It seems though with Corbyn and McDonell they are reverting to old Labour policies of tax and spend - weve been there before.

    Corbyn has spent his whole political life protesting and campaigning - he has never once been on the front bench (opposition or Govt), never held office and has no experience in running a dept (to the best of my knowledge) - but that's ok in some peoples minds.

    I have little faith in most politicians - but Corbyn , Abbott, McDonnell etc - shouldnt be allowed anywhere Downing St at the moment.

  4. #84

    Re: This Tory campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Eric - resources are resources - there is only so much we take in tax, if you want to spend more - you can cut services and / or increase taxes.

    Corbyn is telling everyone there will be jam today and jam tomorrow - if that was true - every Govt would do it - simples.
    How come this government can offer tax breaks for the most well off if we're skint?

  5. #85

    Re: This Tory campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    How come this government can offer tax breaks for the most well off if we're skint?
    I heard a Lib Dem on the telly yesterday saying raising income tax on high earners doesn't work because they will find ways to avoid it. He then continued to talk about the Lib Dem policy to raise tax by 1p for everyone, surely if the higher earners will find ways to avoid it that just becomes a rise in tax for lower rate payers (and honest people)? I think he didn't spot this irony.

  6. #86

    Re: This Tory campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    It's not that easy though is it - put up taxes and you need to be mindful of what it damages. The corporation tax rate was lowered and the tax take went UP!
    Europe is turning into a red light district, countries flaunting their bits at the dimly lit window trying to lure depraved companies in with low headline rates for a cheap ****ing of its citizens.

    Surely we have more to offer businesses than just a low rate of tax?

  7. #87

    Re: This Tory campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    There was an interesting fact the other day - the higher rate tax payers pay over 75% of the tax. If you are on a lower wage - you now dont pay tax until after 12k (it used to be about 5.5k for most people)
    They do still pay tax, just not income tax.

  8. #88

    Re: This Tory campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Europe is turning into a red light district, countries flaunting their bits at the dimly lit window trying to lure depraved companies in with low headline rates for a cheap ****ing of its citizens.

    Surely we have more to offer businesses than just a low rate of tax?
    Not after Brexit.

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