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  1. #1

    Re: Speeding fine conundrum ?

    You say you know it's not your car?

    In which case it's clearly a clone

    So let it go to court they need to prove it's you and not a car that looks like yours.

    If they still don't believe you, lawyer up at that stage

  2. #2

    Re: Speeding fine conundrum ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    You say you know it's not your car?

    In which case it's clearly a clone

    So let it go to court they need to prove it's you and not a car that looks like yours.

    If they still don't believe you, lawyer up at that stage
    Unfortunately unlike criminal law where you are deemed to be innocent until the prosecution proves your guilt, in civil motoring law you are deemed to be guilty unless you can prove your innocence.
    They don"t have to prove that it is me & my car, I have to prove that either it is not me, not my car or both.
    The cloning article Alfonzo Perez linked to https://www.moneysupermarket.com/car...s-car-cloning/ shows the problems a genuine owner has in trying to prove if someone has had plates made up & fitted them to a similar car.
    Also it shows how easy it is to do
    This has all happened within 3 weeks of buying a new (to me car) & I genuinely do think that there is a clone driving around.

  3. #3

    Re: Speeding fine conundrum ?

    Quote Originally Posted by headlight View Post
    Unfortunately unlike criminal law where you are deemed to be innocent until the prosecution proves your guilt, in civil motoring law you are deemed to be guilty unless you can prove your innocence.
    They don"t have to prove that it is me & my car, I have to prove that either it is not me, not my car or both.
    The cloning article Alfonzo Perez linked to https://www.moneysupermarket.com/car...s-car-cloning/ shows the problems a genuine owner has in trying to prove if someone has had plates made up & fitted them to a similar car.
    Also it shows how easy it is to do
    This has all happened within 3 weeks of buying a new (to me car) & I genuinely do think that there is a clone driving around.
    Following on from my post above, did you use a credit/debit card while you were away on the day of the ticket?

    Obviously it depends on how far from home you were in the camper but if you can prove that you were somewhere else then that would be enough proof that it wasn't you driving?

  4. #4

    Re: Speeding fine conundrum ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    You say you know it's not your car?

    In which case it's clearly a clone

    So let it go to court they need to prove it's you and not a car that looks like yours.

    If they still don't believe you, lawyer up at that stage
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