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Thread: Laura Kuenssberg

  1. #61

    Re: Laura Kuenssberg

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    So you are in favour of nationalisation if there is no upfront cost? I feel roughly the same. Buying things back at inflated rates seems to make no sense.

    Damage limitation? I don't see the point with where they currently are. It is like when you see a team 2-0 down to Barca with 20 minutes left and they still have 9 at the back so they don't let 6 in. Labour might as well have a go because the material difference between 150 and 200 is nothing.
    I don't see them being at inflated rates. They are worth what they are worth. As NinianClark has also said, many pension funds rely on these businesses to generate cashflows for their customers. What happens to pensioners, who have no time to plan or make changes to their financial arrangements?

    Your second point is a decent analogy, however surely you can see that losing 6-0 in the first leg could mean that you are out of the game forever. Better to only lose 2-0 or even nick a late goal to make the next round much more competitive.

    My real concern is that we end up with very weak opposition that has no way of holding government to account. when that happens all non Tory MPs may as well go home.

  2. #62

    Re: Laura Kuenssberg

    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    I don't see them being at inflated rates. They are worth what they are worth. As NinianClark has also said, many pension funds rely on these businesses to generate cashflows for their customers. What happens to pensioners, who have no time to plan or make changes to their financial arrangements?

    Your second point is a decent analogy, however surely you can see that losing 6-0 in the first leg could mean that you are out of the game forever. Better to only lose 2-0 or even nick a late goal to make the next round much more competitive.

    My real concern is that we end up with very weak opposition that has no way of holding government to account. when that happens all non Tory MPs may as well go home.
    Tories won 165 seats in 1997 and they have recovered fine. British politics is cyclical.

    Labour need to present their arguement and if it falls flat on its face so be it. They will be back at some point in some guise. I just hope they don't think they have to abandon what are actually popular policies to be deemed 'electable' or 'credible'.

  3. #63

    Re: Laura Kuenssberg

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Do you think there is someone at the BBC telling their journalists and TV presenters what to write, how to write it and to make sure it is pro right wing biased ? - do you believe that ?

    And if you do - do you think it strange that no BBC journalist or presenter has ever spilled the beans, no one ever writer a book or secret blog about how they were forced to write or speak in a certain way ?

    Whoever this BBC controller of political thought and presentation is must be very very clever

    ps I also find her attractive - like a young Selena Scott (for our older readers)
    Nope I think the BBC has definitely had a quiet policy of employing political journalists of a Tory persuasion.The likes of Kuenssberg,Pienaar,Nick Robinson,Andrew Neil,David Dimblebey are Tories.
    Where are there the investigations and reports into foodbanks, homelessness, public sector problems, rising crime etc.There has been diddly squat.

  4. #64

    Re: Laura Kuenssberg

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas View Post
    The big problem I have with Kuenssberg and the BBC in general, is the unwillingness to really take this government to task. We've had at least seven years of austerity, savage cuts, public sector pay freezes, nearly a million people on zero hour contracts, queues at food banks etc etc, yet I rarely see pieces that are critical of the Tories. I just cannot believe what an easy ride they've had. Instead they seem to be completely preoccupied with reporting on Labour and Corbyns failings.

    It does help of course that the tories have also had the twin gifts of two referendums to deflect attention from their miserable performance in charge.
    This guy does, surprised someone like Channel 4 haven't picked him up yet

  5. #65

    Re: Laura Kuenssberg

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Tories won 165 seats in 1997 and they have recovered fine. British politics is cyclical.

    Labour need to present their arguement and if it falls flat on its face so be it. They will be back at some point in some guise. I just hope they don't think they have to abandon what are actually popular policies to be deemed 'electable' or 'credible'.
    Lets translate this into food :-

    Ed Milliband offered Egg and Chips - and he lost - maybe the electorate dont like his eggs ?
    Corbyn then thinks stuff this - I'll offer the electorate Double Egg and Chips, with some extra bacon - they are bound to like that ?

    The problem is, although we'd all like double egg, extra free bacon and chips - we all realise that you then need to go to the gym to work off the fat - so maybe we'd rather stick to a boring salad.

    Rather than all this work less hours, pay less tax, have more holidays rhetoric - Corbyn should have just made this election a pseudo 2nd Brexit Referendum - "Vote for me and I will stop Brexit" - May called it to get a mandate for Brexit - therefor Corbyn needs to fight it based on offering a different path, he's not - he's gone back to the tax and spend of old Labour. Just my opinion anyway.

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