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Thread: FBI Director Comey Sacked

  1. #31

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    But that's not what he said, was it?
    What did he say? Maybe Fox News misquoted him then.

  2. #32

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I dont think we are talking about a chess grand master here. It actually reminded me of my three year old coming out of the kitchen, face covered in biscuits immediately blurting out "I didn't have any biscuits".


    Now that's very unfair. Trump sacked him because of what happened in last year's email kerfuffle and just because it happened out of the blue during an investigation into his team's Russia links is entirely coincidental.

  3. #33

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post


    Now that's very unfair. Trump sacked him because of what happened in last year's email kerfuffle and just because it happened out of the blue during an investigation into his team's Russia links is entirely coincidental.
    Interesting theory you have there, it deserves a bookmark

  4. #34

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    What did he say? Maybe Fox News misquoted him then.
    He said he wasn't aware of any evidence and he also said:

    "When the intelligence community obtains information suggesting that a U.S. person is acting on behalf of a foreign power, the standard procedure is to share that information with the lead investigatory body, which of course is the FBI. The bureau then decides whether to look into that information and handles any ensuing investigation if there is one. Given its sensitivity, even the existence of a counterintelligence investigation's closely held, including at the highest levels.

    During my tenure as DNI, it was my practice to defer to the FBI director, both Director Mueller and then subsequently Director Comey, on whether, when and to what extent they would inform me about such investigations. This stems from the unique position of the FBI, which straddles both intelligence and law enforcement. And as a consequence, I was not aware of the counterintelligence investigation Director Comey first referred to during his testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee for Intelligence on the 20th of March, and that comports with my public statements."


    That can be found here in the full transcript:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.588d29ff8162

  5. #35

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    He said he wasn't aware of any evidence and he also said:

    "When the intelligence community obtains information suggesting that a U.S. person is acting on behalf of a foreign power, the standard procedure is to share that information with the lead investigatory body, which of course is the FBI. The bureau then decides whether to look into that information and handles any ensuing investigation if there is one. Given its sensitivity, even the existence of a counterintelligence investigation's closely held, including at the highest levels.

    During my tenure as DNI, it was my practice to defer to the FBI director, both Director Mueller and then subsequently Director Comey, on whether, when and to what extent they would inform me about such investigations. This stems from the unique position of the FBI, which straddles both intelligence and law enforcement. And as a consequence, I was not aware of the counterintelligence investigation Director Comey first referred to during his testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee for Intelligence on the 20th of March, and that comports with my public statements."


    That can be found here in the full transcript:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.588d29ff8162
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...narrative.html

  6. #36

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    What bit am I supposed to be looking at?


    "Clapper admitted he also was not initially aware of the FBI’s counterintelligence probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. But he said if there was any evidence of collusion, it “didn’t reach the evidentiary bar” needed for an intelligence assessment issued earlier this year. Clapper, further, reiterated that his team could not corroborate the contents of an infamous anti-Trump dossier that was shared with officials earlier this year."

    This doesn't look like a man saying there was no evidence.

  7. #37

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    What bit am I supposed to be looking at?


    "Clapper admitted he also was not initially aware of the FBI’s counterintelligence probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. But he said if there was any evidence of collusion, it “didn’t reach the evidentiary bar” needed for an intelligence assessment issued earlier this year. Clapper, further, reiterated that his team could not corroborate the contents of an infamous anti-Trump dossier that was shared with officials earlier this year."

    This doesn't look like a man saying there was no evidence.
    All I am seeing is the careful use of words, insinuations and the weaving of storylines. I'll wait for hard evidence one way or the other.

    Anyway, what's your take on the BlackBerry syncing issue? I presume this has something to do with Comey getting fired, as the emails were not being forwarded to Weiner for printing like he said they were.

  8. #38

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    All I am seeing is the careful use of words, insinuations and the weaving of storylines. I'll wait for hard evidence one way or the other.
    So he never said there was no evidence, I'm glad we could agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Anyway, what's your take on the BlackBerry syncing issue? I presume this has something to do with Comey getting fired, as the emails were not being forwarded to Weiner for printing like he said they were.
    No idea.

  9. #39

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    No idea.
    You seem to know what is going on regarding Trump and the Russians, so I thought you might also know which laptops Clinton's 19 BlackBerries were syncing to, and where the main external server was located.

    Since you have already solved the Trump/Russia puzzle, how about looking into the BlackBerry issue as an academic exercise?

  10. #40

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Didn't he say he couldn't answer because there was an ongoing investigation?
    He said it was standard policy for him not to be kept updated during ongoing investigations.

  11. #41

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You seem to know what is going on regarding Trump and the Russians, so I thought you might also know which laptops Clinton's 19 BlackBerries were syncing to, and where the main external server was located.

    Since you have already solved the Trump/Russia puzzle, how about looking into the BlackBerry issue as an academic exercise?
    There appear to be some toys strewn around Gluey's pram

  12. #42

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    There appear to be some toys strewn around Gluey's pram
    No, you seem to have good research capabilities, so put them to good use and find out which enterprise servers those Blackberry's were syncing to, and who had access to all the data that was stored on the external primary enterprise server.

  13. #43

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    There appear to be some toys strewn around Gluey's pram
    He's just annoyed because you've stolen his seat at the top table.

  14. #44

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    No, you seem to have good research capabilities, so put them to good use and find out which enterprise servers those Blackberry's were syncing to, and who had access to all that data that was stored on the external primary enterprise server.
    Calm down dear.

    This forum is big enough for more than one font of all insider knowledge.

  15. #45

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    No, you seem to have good research capabilities, so put them to good use and find out which enterprise servers those Blackberry's were syncing to, and who had access to all the data that was stored on the external primary enterprise server.


    I just found what he actually said! I know you don't like fake news and you were inadvertantly falling into some. Now go and have five minutes in time-out, it's for the best.

  16. #46

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post


    I just found what he actually said! I know you don't like fake news and you were inadvertantly falling into some. Now go and have five minutes in time-out, it's for the best.
    Here you go, you can start here http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...urces-say.html

  17. #47

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    Calm down dear.

    This forum is big enough for more than one font of all insider knowledge.
    I think I upset him.

  18. #48

    Re: Baron Trump - new head of the FBI

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I think I upset him.
    No dear, certainly not

  19. #49

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Bonus question:

    What links the sackings of preet bharara, Sally Yates and James Comey

  20. #50

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Bonus question:

    What links the sackings of preet bharara, Sally Yates and James Comey
    Trump? Russia?

  21. #51

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    As a matter of interest, why the sudden Comey lovefest from the anti-Trumpers?

    Barely a few months ago he was enemy no.1 among the Clintonites
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 10-05-17 at 19:42.

  22. #52

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    As a matter of interest, why the sudden Comey lovefest from the anti-Trumpers?

    Barely a few months ago he was enemy no.1 among the Clintonites
    If you think it's major international news because everyone reckons Comey is doing a great job, then you're missing the point like Eddie Johnson on a one-on-one.

  23. #53

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    If you think it's major international news because everyone reckons Comey is doing a great job, then you're missing the point like Eddie Johnson on a one-on-one.
    Any news on those BlackBerries? That will be major international news if you can solve the riddle

  24. #54

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Is that pizza parlour thing still going on ? You know the one that was obviously a really story?
    Hmmm...

  25. #55

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Any news on those BlackBerries? That will be major international news if you can solve the riddle
    For someone who claims to only deal with facts and who reads both sides of the story before making an independent conclusion, this thread has been a pretty awful performance for you.

  26. #56

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    For someone who claims to only deal with facts and who reads both sides of the story before making an independent conclusion, this thread has been a pretty awful performance for you.
    The Blackberry's are a fact, and they were using the sync function to send data to an external server. You just keep banging on about Trump and the Russians, while there is a Pandora's box just waiting to be opened. I reckon if McCabe is sidelined too, then it will be game on. Trump has already tweeting about Blumenthal, Rice, etc. BTW this is all very old news, and I suspect Comey may have been blocking any investigation, hence his sudden departure.

  27. #57

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The Blackberry's are a fact, and they were using the sync function to send data to an external server. You just keep banging on about Trump and the Russians, while there is a Pandora's box just waiting to be opened. I reckon if McCabe is sidelined too, then it will be game on. Trump has already tweeting about Blumenthal, Rice, etc. BTW this is all very old news, and I suspect Comey may have been blocking any investigation, hence his sudden departure.
    All very old news, but who started the thread?

  28. #58

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    All very old news, but who started the thread?
    Well tbf, Comey only got sacked 2 days ago, so I could have hardly made it any earlier

  29. #59

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Well tbf, Comey only got sacked 2 days ago, so I could have hardly made it any earlier
    Then stop posting in this thread and start a new one. Anyone who still wants to bang on about Trump and Russia can carry on here

  30. #60

    Re: FBI Director Comey Sacked

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Is that pizza parlour thing still going on ? You know the one that was obviously a really story?
    Hmmm...
    Yeah, that one's gone a bit quiet. We can all hazard a guess as to why...

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