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    Re: Tories borrow more on average than Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfonso Perez View Post
    Cameron has a lot to answer for but so have lot's of others in my view, including Corbyn who I am convinced has been telling porkies about wanting to remain as his actions during & after the referendum strongly suggest to me that he wants to leave. I am surprised that such a strongly principled man did not have the courage to show his true colours although I suppose Jeremy has been on a journey as Emily Thornberry put it.

    As for Boris, Gove, & Farage their campaign was full of holes (& lot's of the brown stuff!) but unfortunately a dis-united remain campaign was unable to take advantage.

    In Wales the campaign (or lack of one) run by Carwyn Jones & Leanne Wood was shambolic which resulted in a lot of their core voters choosing to leave. It is crazy to think that some of these communities benefit significantly from EU money so putting up a robust argument should have been relatively easy but clearly not for Carwyn & Leanne. They have put a lot of effort into moaning since the referendum but it's a pity that this effort was not matched before the vote. If Wales had voted to remain, like Scotland & N Ireland, I am certain that the UK government would be having a far rougher ride over brexit than it currently is.

    So pointing the finger solely at Cameron is unfair in my view as there are lot's of others who should also take a long hard look at themselves.
    He was the one who had the power to face down his rightwingers.Instead he was weak and took a huge gamble by going for a Referendum.He put party before country.
    Agree others were pretty hopeless especially the current PM who went into hiding.

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    Re: Tories borrow more on average than Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    He was the one who had the power to face down his rightwingers.Instead he was weak and took a huge gamble by going for a Referendum.He put party before country.
    Agree others were pretty hopeless especially the current PM who went into hiding.
    She did a Corbyn, but no special mention for her from Alfonso, how peculiar

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    Re: Tories borrow more on average than Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    She did a Corbyn, but no special mention for her from Alfonso, how peculiar

    What do you mean by that?

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    Re: Tories borrow more on average than Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfonso Perez View Post
    What do you mean by that?
    Well she is the most important person in British politics at the moment, she was a very prominent member of the Cameron's government and she went completely missing for the entirety of the referendum campaign. If you were trying to deliver a complete verdict you could have found a few words to apportion some blame to her too.

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    Re: Tories borrow more on average than Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Well she is the most important person in British politics at the moment, she was a very prominent member of the Cameron's government and she went completely missing for the entirety of the referendum campaign. If you were trying to deliver a complete verdict you could have found a few words to apportion some blame to her too.
    you could argue that by being quiet she was biding her time. it wouldn't be a tough argument to win.

    what I don't get is this fawning of Corbyn as a man of principle. The guy is a hypocrite.

    Whilst a backbencher Corbyn continuously revolted and ignored the party whip, voting according to his conscience. Yet as soon as he has a sniff of power Corbyn expected party members to tow the line or lose the whip.

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