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  1. #1

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Hill is 38 and Mackie is signing a new deal at QPR, apparently. I think we will have a half decent squad come September. We need squad depth, especially out across the midfield and up front but it isn't a bad side. I don't think we need any journeymen etc, we've got a few of them as it is, although he'll certainly bring in some trusted disciples.
    Yes I read earlier they are in talks, and sounds like both parties want it to happen, but should those talks break down I think he is definitely someone who would interest Warnock.

  2. #2

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I think its no real secret that Bellamy is going to be Warnocks successor. My concern however is what sort of squad Warnock is going to leave Bellamy.

    Whilst there is a place for a journeymen like Halford, as he covers a number of positions, and Sol because hes still a bloody good player, I just hope Warnock doesnt load the squad with 30 somethings.

    Certainly from listening to Bellamy talk previously his football ideals somehwat differs to Warnocks.

    Its a problem Trollope had trying to make silk purse out of a sows ear with Slades squad, and I fear Bellamy might suffer in the same way.

    The fact that Jamie Mackie and Clint Hill are free agents does worry me slightly. Im just glad Sean Derry has retired.
    I'm amazed we haven't signed Jamie Mackie mate. I thought that would be nailed on!

    I share your concerns about the squad Bellamy would inherit from Warnock as we all saw what happened with Trollope.

    I think if we do go for it this year it will probably be shit or bust again. I we don't get promoted this season i would live to see Bellamy take over and do a rebuilding job similar to what has gone on a Fulham.

    I think it's imperative that there are two different goals set by the board this season.

    1) For us to challenge immediately for play offs

    2) To continue developing a system of play that can somehow be recognised as the Cardiff way in years to come.

    I do think that it's possible for this to happen and the latter will only bear fruit in years to come. It will inevitably be difficult and in an ideal world we'd all be singing off the same hymn sheet but we have to find a way that is sustainable if we stay in the championship and that can only be done by developing our own.

  3. #3

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Quote Originally Posted by thehumblegringo View Post
    I'm amazed we haven't signed Jamie Mackie mate. I thought that would be nailed on!

    I share your concerns about the squad Bellamy would inherit from Warnock as we all saw what happened with Trollope.

    I think if we do go for it this year it will probably be shit or bust again. I we don't get promoted this season i would live to see Bellamy take over and do a rebuilding job similar to what has gone on a Fulham.

    I think it's imperative that there are two different goals set by the board this season.

    1) For us to challenge immediately for play offs

    2) To continue developing a system of play that can somehow be recognised as the Cardiff way in years to come.

    I do think that it's possible for this to happen and the latter will only bear fruit in years to come. It will inevitably be difficult and in an ideal world we'd all be singing off the same hymn sheet but we have to find a way that is sustainable if we stay in the championship and that can only be done by developing our own.
    Question to ask who in our squad is better than Mackie ,it will come down to the same old thing ,money ,and length of contract,the later being the one that costs you in the end with older players .

  4. #4

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Quote Originally Posted by thehumblegringo View Post
    I'm amazed we haven't signed Jamie Mackie mate. I thought that would be nailed on!

    I share your concerns about the squad Bellamy would inherit from Warnock as we all saw what happened with Trollope.

    I think if we do go for it this year it will probably be shit or bust again. I we don't get promoted this season i would live to see Bellamy take over and do a rebuilding job similar to what has gone on a Fulham.

    I think it's imperative that there are two different goals set by the board this season.

    1) For us to challenge immediately for play offs

    2) To continue developing a system of play that can somehow be recognised as the Cardiff way in years to come.

    I do think that it's possible for this to happen and the latter will only bear fruit in years to come. It will inevitably be difficult and in an ideal world we'd all be singing off the same hymn sheet but we have to find a way that is sustainable if we stay in the championship and that can only be done by developing our own.
    I think the problem with Mackie is QPR have an option on his contract, so can extend it for a year but they seem to be trying to work out a longer term deal. Either way, I think we'll sign a few of his mates.

    I think we've got a decent squad and Warnock is building a pretty solid platform. We've clearly became hard to beat and we just need a little more. I think we'll be a bit more agricultural than someone like Bellamy would like but if we can keep the solidity at the back I think we can do both.

    Lastly, if Warnock does get replaced by Bellamy next summer, I'd like us to try and keep NW around for a season at least, just as a go between in some DoF role, for stability and to give Bellamy some advice. Having said all that, it can't be easy having the old manager over your shoulder, especially when I fully expect NW to continue the great work he's done this season.

  5. #5

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Have to say, the podcast is superb by the way

  6. #6

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWales View Post
    Sir Alex Ferguson had a bit of a temper and it did him no harm
    at all as a manager. Good luck Craig.
    How would it work today though with so much player power? The players are far more precious than say 10 years ago? Look how thecplauers turned on Mourinho and he'd just won the league. Rianieri too.

    So much money involved these days far easier to get rid of the manager and side with the players.

  7. #7

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    How would it work today though with so much player power? The players are far more precious than say 10 years ago? Look how thecplauers turned on Mourinho and he'd just won the league. Rianieri too.

    So much money involved these days far easier to get rid of the manager and side with the players.
    You're spot on here.
    If you or I decided to deliberately perform badly at work because we didn't like our manager, we'd be out the door. No multimillion pound pay off.

  8. #8

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    You're spot on here.
    If you or I decided to deliberately perform badly at work because we didn't like our manager, we'd be out the door. No multimillion pound pay off.
    And the sooner that attitude returns to football the better. Far too much player power these days.

  9. #9

    Re: Craig Bellamy

    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 View Post
    You're spot on here.
    If you or I decided to deliberately perform badly at work because we didn't like our manager, we'd be out the door. No multimillion pound pay off.
    Football seems to play by its own set of rules.
    Vilas Boas is a multi millionaire by being a failure. Got sacked twice early into 5 year contracts and has tens of millions to show for it.

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