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    Re: Modern day terrorism....

    So what do we do to make a better world? Pull up the draw bridge and gradually weed out the bad uns until we alright jack? Turn a blind eye to appalling regimes around the world? If not, impose sanctions rather than military intervention? I have no idea tbh but I do know that the start of the solution has to come from within the Islamic church. Quite how "we" contribute to that is beyond my limited intellect but we have to remain optimistic or in a way we have already lost.

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    Re: Modern day terrorism....

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gwapo View Post
    So what do we do to make a better world? Pull up the draw bridge and gradually weed out the bad uns until we alright jack? Turn a blind eye to appalling regimes around the world? If not, impose sanctions rather than military intervention? I have no idea tbh but I do know that the start of the solution has to come from within the Islamic church. Quite how "we" contribute to that is beyond my limited intellect but we have to remain optimistic or in a way we have already lost.
    The solution to the problem has always been within the Muslim community, when young men travel to Pakistan / Syria etc etc to " study " it seems that other members of the mosque / Muslim community really think they are studying, I watched a interview with a Mosque leader ( he wasnt the Imam though ) he looked surprised that members of his Mosque had got involved with IS, they had just gone to these countries to study

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    The solution to the problem has always been within the Muslim community, when young men travel to Pakistan / Syria etc etc to " study " it seems that other members of the mosque / Muslim community really think they are studying, I watched a interview with a Mosque leader ( he wasnt the Imam though ) he looked surprised that members of his Mosque had got involved with IS, they had just gone to these countries to study
    I'm not sure the Muslim community can sort this out. They just use Islam as a cover don't they? Good muslims despair if them too.
    Maybe they will have to change and do more who knows? A guy I knew in the docks turned to Islam in his 20's, I still see him now and again, he says such atrocities will never happen in Cardiff as "we'd take care if it" before it became an issue. I'd like to believe it to be true, not so sure now to be honest. Lots of jihadis seem to come from Cardiff, but as yet none have ever come back to terrorise here.
    Let's hope it stays this way.

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    Re: Modern day terrorism....

    Some young muslims were handing out extremist leaflets outside the mosque in Butetown a while back, the imam and elder muslims told them to fack off, one of the older blokes told them that they've lived in peace and harmony here for many years and they didn't want these arseholes fecking it up for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian gibson View Post
    Some young muslims were handing out extremist leaflets outside the mosque in Butetown a while back, the imam and elder muslims told them to fack off, one of the older blokes told them that they've lived in peace and harmony here for many years and they didn't want these arseholes fecking it up for everyone.
    a prime example of what can be done within their own community to stem radicalism
    IG.
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    Re: Modern day terrorism....

    Quote Originally Posted by ian gibson View Post
    Some young muslims were handing out extremist leaflets outside the mosque in Butetown a while back, the imam and elder muslims told them to fack off, one of the older blokes told them that they've lived in peace and harmony here for many years and they didn't want these arseholes fecking it up for everyone.
    Exactly, they might come and try but they would be driven out, sorted (to put it mildly) and exposed. Cardiff has been a very multiracial city for a very long time, particularly the areas where Islam is very present like the docks, riverside, g town etc.....the black flags of Islamic state have been seen here in the past mind, not for a long time now I think. Like he told me years ago, they have nothing to do with Islam.

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    Re: Modern day terrorism....

    Quote Originally Posted by ian gibson View Post
    Some young muslims were handing out extremist leaflets outside the mosque in Butetown a while back, the imam and elder muslims told them to fack off, one of the older blokes told them that they've lived in peace and harmony here for many years and they didn't want these arseholes fecking it up for everyone.
    and that is the way it needs to be all over the county, it might be for a good % of it ( who knows, i admit i dont ) but as the interview i watched with a Mosque leader, he looked surprised that members of his Mosque had got involved with IS, they had just gone to this or that country to study

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