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    Labour voters

    It's just a bad habit and a complete waste of a vote. Plaid is the only real Welsh party who will defend our interests. Go on, waste your votes on Corbin and reap what you sow yet again.

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    Re: Labour voters

    I've yet to speak to any voter who were enthused by the party they voted for or planned to vote for. People seem to place their X next to what they believe is the best of a bad bunch.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Watcliff View Post
    It's just a bad habit and a complete waste of a vote. Plaid is the only real Welsh party who will defend our interests. Go on, waste your votes on Corbin and reap what you sow yet again.
    Plaid have one vote in our house.. so far.

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    Re: Labour voters

    All I've got to say is that, about six weeks into the campaign, I'm far more likely to vote Labour now than I was when the election was called - I'm still no fan of Corbyn, but, Dianne Abbott apart, I feel he and his party are having a good campaign and I really like their manifesto.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    All I've got to say is that, about six weeks into the campaign, I'm far more likely to vote Labour now than I was when the election was called - I'm still no fan of Corbyn, but, Dianne Abbott apart, I feel he and his party are having a good campaign and I really like their manifesto.
    The gloves will be coming off today by all accounts.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The gloves will be coming off today by all accounts.
    I'm not surprised, it's forecast to be 25c. Who still wears gloves in May anyway? (Insert fisting joke here).

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas View Post
    I'm not surprised, it's forecast to be 25c. Who still wears gloves in May anyway? (Insert fisting joke here).
    I've made a fisting joke up for this thread Barry.

    Did you hear about the the world's busiest fisting enthusiast? He was up to his elbows in it.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    All I've got to say is that, about six weeks into the campaign, I'm far more likely to vote Labour now than I was when the election was called - I'm still no fan of Corbyn, but, Dianne Abbott apart, I feel he and his party are having a good campaign and I really like their manifesto.
    If he wasn't so anti business I would vote for Labour 100%.

    If Brexit is going to be bad then good luck to people thinking socialist policies on top will be a good idea.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by LordKenwyne View Post
    If he wasn't so anti business I would vote for Labour 100%.

    If Brexit is going to be bad then good luck to people thinking socialist policies on top will be a good idea.
    we will have no need to work, they will look after us anyway

    option 1, work 40 hours per week for £300
    option 2, stay home and let them look after the poor with £400 in benefits
    option 3, work part time ( 20 hours ) earn £150 and get £400 in help

    its a tough choice

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    I would tend to vote for the person / party - that has experience in a ministerial role, has been on the front bench or shadow front bench, so knows their way around the ins and outs of a Govt dept. I wouldn't vote for someone who has spent ALL their political life campaigning against everything that just about every Govt has done.

    It's all well and good about making a stand and going on a march - it's a lot harder to actually deliver something.

    I dont believe Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell etc can deliver, I dont believe they are competent and dont believe they can make tough decisions that are sometimes necessary and may sometimes go against your principals even though they are for the greater good.

    I wont be voting Labour this time.
    Well positioned ,I think a lot of Labour voters may well take that view , I know I'm one ,and many ive chatted have confirmed the same , it's upsetting after all these years of loyalty to Labour I find myself in this position .

    I think with Brexit coming and the uncertainty of the world's security these times need experienced tough people.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I think with Brexit coming and the uncertainty of the world's security these times need experienced tough people.
    We need a strong and stable leadership to put your busy mind at rest.

    Repeat after me ... Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable ... ZZZZZZzzzzzz

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    Re: Labour voters

    May is doing a good job of throwing away a 6-0 halftime lead. Not sure we could get more incompetent than that although I am sure Corbyn will prove me wrong tonight and plumb some new depths.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Talking to a mate of mine whose working on a construction job in town, he says he and most of the blokes he knows on the job would usually vote Labour - not this time - they are all voting conservative, for two reasons - 1 Brexit 2 Corbyn
    Talking to a mate of mine whose working with lawyers and accountants in town, he says he and most of the blokes he knows in the office would usually vote Conservative - not this time - they are all voting Labour, for two reasons - 1 May 2 May

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    We need a strong and stable leadership to put your busy mind at rest.

    Repeat after me ... Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable Strong & Stable ... ZZZZZZzzzzzz
    It is funny when you realise it actually works...

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    Re: Im out

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    I would tend to vote for the person / party - that has experience in a ministerial role, has been on the front bench or shadow front bench, so knows their way around the ins and outs of a Govt dept. I wouldn't vote for someone who has spent ALL their political life campaigning against everything that just about every Govt has done.

    It's all well and good about making a stand and going on a march - it's a lot harder to actually deliver something.

    I dont believe Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell etc can deliver, I dont believe they are competent and dont believe they can make tough decisions that are sometimes necessary and may sometimes go against your principals even though they are for the greater good.

    I wont be voting Labour this time.
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    Re: Im out

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Local Elections this year - Plaid
    General Elections last time - Lib Dem - only due to the fact I liked the coalition idea, the area in which I live means it was a 2 horse race between Lab / Libs.

    This time - Ive gone past caring to a certain degree either - undecided between Conservative / Libs / Plaid

    What about you Wales - Bales ?
    Non-voter her, but it's fun to observe the shenanigans surrounding an election. I enjoy the psychological aspect of it all, particularly how the media influence people's thoughts.

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    Re: Im out

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    I would tend to vote for the person / party - that has experience in a ministerial role, has been on the front bench or shadow front bench, so knows their way around the ins and outs of a Govt dept. I wouldn't vote for someone who has spent ALL their political life campaigning against everything that just about every Govt has done.

    It's all well and good about making a stand and going on a march - it's a lot harder to actually deliver something.

    I dont believe Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell etc can deliver, I dont believe they are competent and dont believe they can make tough decisions that are sometimes necessary and may sometimes go against your principals even though they are for the greater good.

    I wont be voting Labour this time.
    Pray tell, what has this Government, with all of it's experience of being in charge of the country themselves or in coalition actually achieved? Although unemployment figures are always massaged to show any Government in the best possible light and questions could be asked about the sort of jobs that have been created, I concede their record on jobs is good, but where else can they be said to have succeeded?

    The Conservative party are supposed to be the ones who are the soundest when it comes to finances and yet there has been a litany of targets not reached or that have had to be "adjusted" because they were taken longer to achieve than first thought - in many cases, what was supposed to have been reached by 2015, will now, we are told be achieved by 2020, or probably 2022, now.

    The news this week that net immigration was running at nearly two and a half times above the target that our strong and stable leader was supposed to achieve during the coalition Government was being presented as a triumph of sorts by some, because it represented an improvement on the more than three times over target figure during the last year when she who must be obeyed was running the Home Office.

    Despite her party's attempts to steal defeat from the jaws of victory, I still expect our strong and stable leader to be Prime Minister on June 9, but if enough voters get the "Emporer's New Clothes" analogy when applied to her in the way that this writer clearly does with his remarks in the first three paragraphs of his piece

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...founds-critics

    then I might just turn out to be wrong.
    Last edited by the other bob wilson; 27-05-17 at 04:28.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Well positioned ,I think a lot of Labour voters may well take that view , I know I'm one ,and many ive chatted have confirmed the same , it's upsetting after all these years of loyalty to Labour I find myself in this position .

    I think with Brexit coming and the uncertainty of the world's security these times need experienced tough people.
    I'm not actually sure our present overlords are these tough experienced people. They are running quite possible the worst election campaign in history. Michael fallon being interviewed on channel 4 was so bad I almost felt sorry for him. Theresa May is a mess of mediocrity and as for Boris....

    They'll probably still win but I hope the cocky bastards have as much anxiety as possible the next two weeks with opinion polls hopefully narrowing some more.

    I wasn't very pro Corbyn but he's changed my mind and looks far more dignified, assured and intelligent then anyone in the Conservatives. I have a feeling the press will keep sniping and the IRA Sinn Fein story will keep getting regurgitated.

    God help us all when the Tories get back in , quite simply the worst collective class of politicians I've ever seen.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    I'm not actually sure our present overlords are these tough experienced people. They are running quite possible the worst election campaign in history. Michael fallon being interviewed on channel 4 was so bad I almost felt sorry for him. Theresa May is a mess of mediocrity and as for Boris....

    They'll probably still win but I hope the cocky bastards have as much anxiety as possible the next two weeks with opinion polls hopefully narrowing some more.

    I wasn't very pro Corbyn but he's changed my mind and looks far more dignified, assured and intelligent then anyone in the Conservatives. I have a feeling the press will keep sniping and the IRA Sinn Fein story will keep getting regurgitated.

    God help us all when the Tories get back in , quite simply the worst collective class of politicians I've ever seen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wTPckw2m1Y

    Maybe not in the Diane Abbott class, but not far off it - thanks for the mention of this interview .

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wTPckw2m1Y

    Maybe not in the Diane Abbott class, but not far off it - thanks for the mention of this interview .
    Oops, I've just made a thread on this topic, it probably deserves one though!

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    I'm not actually sure our present overlords are these tough experienced people. They are running quite possible the worst election campaign in history. Michael fallon being interviewed on channel 4 was so bad I almost felt sorry for him. Theresa May is a mess of mediocrity and as for Boris....

    They'll probably still win but I hope the cocky bastards have as much anxiety as possible the next two weeks with opinion polls hopefully narrowing some more.

    I wasn't very pro Corbyn but he's changed my mind and looks far more dignified, assured and intelligent then anyone in the Conservatives. I have a feeling the press will keep sniping and the IRA Sinn Fein story will keep getting regurgitated.

    God help us all when the Tories get back in , quite simply the worst collective class of politicians I've ever seen.
    And the IRA Sinn Fein story should be repeated until he gives a convincing argument as to why he has given them such backing over the years including times when they were the terrorists everybody feared.

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    And the IRA Sinn Fein story should be repeated until he gives a convincing argument as to why he has given them such backing over the years including times when they were the terrorists everybody feared.
    What would you consider convincing?

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    What would you consider convincing?
    Nothing I have heard so far.

    Perhaps someone involved in the peace process (other than Sinn Fein) saying that his contacts over the years had helped significantly towards tge peace process.

    Has he convinced you?

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    Re: Labour voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Nothing I have heard so far.

    Perhaps someone involved in the peace process (other than Sinn Fein) saying that his contacts over the years had helped significantly towards tge peace process.

    Has he convinced you?
    Why would you need proof that his interventions were successful for them to be considered well intentioned?

    I just get the impression most people have already made their mind up and short of Corbyn going 'okay fine I bloody love the IRA!' they won't believe a word he says on the matter.

    This might come across as a bit insensitive but it doesn't matter a great deal to me. These things are always a bit more complicated than we like to think - We were on team Saddam, then we hate Saddam. We were on team Gaddafi then we hate Gaddafi. The reality is that the British did some terrible things in Ireland and the IRA did terrible things in Ireland and here. I would prefer if this election were fought on policies and the future rather than mud slinging.

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