The way to stop terrorism in this country

[blue matt]

What exactly is 'the liberal approach'? That might come across as flippant but I am struggling to see anything overly 'liberal' about our approach towards terrorism as a country (and rightly so).

Liberal approach, well for me it is people who the Secret service know will try and commit a terrorist attack / support in an attack / raise funds for a terror group / radicalise others / , for me it is pretty liberal to allow them to walk our streets / rise our trains etc etc, now thats pretty Liberal

UK citizens might have been to Syria and other countries where IS are active. I think most people who travel there go via Turkey. British nationals made 1.6 million visits to Turkey in 2016, sounds like hundreds of thousands of passports to tear up.

I am not against a tougher approach per se but little of what I have read on here in the last few days is possible and when it does pass that test it is usually bonkers and would only serve to increase the problems we see.

How many of these 1.6 Million are on a terror watch list ? ? ? lets look at them, its a start, or have they all gone to Syria to " study the Quran " ? ??

[Eric Cartman]

Liberal approach, well for me it is people who the Secret service know will try and commit a terrorist attack / support in an attack / raise funds for a terror group / radicalise others / , for me it is pretty liberal to allow them to walk our streets / rise our trains etc etc, now thats pretty Liberal

That is quite an accusation and a damning judgement of our intelligence service.

Do you think the intelligence agencies are similarly 'liberal' in their approach in America or should we look to copy them?

[blue matt]

That is quite an accusation and a damning judgement of our intelligence service.

Do you think the intelligence agencies are similarly 'liberal' in their approach in America or should we look to copy them?

quite an accusation and a damning judgement of our intelligence service ? ? you must be seeing things again

Not really, just the way our country is, or maybe its Europe, we will see soon enough, from what i have seen on the news ( and specials ) the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) doesnt help us alot

We know our intelligence do a great job, I bet its a very frustrating job, they have a massive list with people they know have the know how / will to commit a terrorist attack / support in an attack / raise funds for a terror group / radicalise others, yet still have to sit and watch them, maybe is the Security services and police were given a free'er reign then they could do more

as for America, I know they use different methods, does it work better ? ? not being in the field, i couldnt really tell

[Eric Cartman]

How many of these 1.6 Million are on a terror watch list ? ? ? lets look at them, its a start, or have they all gone to Syria to " study the Quran " ? ??

I would imagine they are 'looking at' anyone who has travelled to Turkey and is on any kind of watch list. Do you think they aren't doing this?

[blue matt]

Bags are checked when you go in at most events. How would this work? No bags anywhere near? Won't 'they' just target somewhere you cant search all bags like a train station?

What exactly is 'the liberal approach'? That might come across as flippant but I am struggling to see anything overly 'liberal' about our approach towards terrorism as a country (and rightly so).

The government have already said they have no idea how many UK citizens might have been to Syria and other countries where IS are active. I think most people who travel there go via Turkey. British nationals made 1.6 million visits to Turkey in 2016, sounds like hundreds of thousands of passports to tear up.

I am not against a tougher approach per se but little of what I have read on here in the last few days is possible and when it does pass that test it is usually bonkers and would only serve to increase the problems we see.

I would imagine they are 'looking at' anyone who has travelled to Turkey and is on any kind of watch list. Do you think they aren't doing this?

come on, you used the figure 1.6 million to prove its a massive number and it is unfeasible to pull them in for questioning, of course they cannot for 1.6 million, but i wonder what very small % of that 1.6 mil is on a watch list, they could of course pull them in and see what they have been upto

[Eric Cartman]

come on, you used the figure 1.6 million to prove its a massive number and it is unfeasible to pull them in for questioning, of course they cannot for 1.6 million, but i wonder what very small % of that 1.6 mil is on a watch list, they could of course pull them in and see what they have been upto

'visits'

When the police pull them in to see what they have been up to, what do you think they should do to get the information?

[blue matt]

'visits'

When the police pull them in to see what they have been up to, what do you think they should do to get the information?

i really dont care, whatever needs to be done

[Eric Cartman]

i really dont care, whatever needs to be done

So you would like to see the police given the power to arrest somebody for going to Turkey and then be able to do 'whatever needs to be done' to get them to admit to something that may or may not have happened while they were there? Does this concern you even a little bit?

[blue matt]

So you would like to see the police given the power to arrest somebody for going to Turkey and then be able to do 'whatever needs to be done' to get them to admit to something that may or may not have happened while they were there? Does this concern you even a little bit?

once again you are seeing things

you appear to have a habit of that