Corbyn to do Glastonbury - 'the hero of the hour'!

[JDerrida]

^^ Theresa May would have - yet again - bussed in another dozen docile old dears from the local retirement home, to stand wobbling behind her while she trotted out more feeble, pointless, empty soundbites.

I can scarcely imagine what will actually happen over the next few years, but the lid is, well and truly off - thanks mainly to one man (who the c***s mocked) - and, frankly it is a superb sight.
Not something I thought I would see again in my lifetime.

Great to see the young motivated and embracing hope.

Try to mock anyone with an ounce of common sense and a recollection of how financially fecked we were by the last labour government, by stating their all docile old dears.

For balance, surely you should equally say that Corbyn appeals to 5 year olds.

As you know, both are utter bullsh!t, so why come out with bullsh!t ? Because you are imbalanced ?

The thing is that Corbyn appeals to the younger people, because he think like a teenager. He's self centric and always been a campaigner. That is why he did well at the election ( still lost to the so called awful Teresa May by over 50 seats ).

Great campaigners don't always make great leaders though.

Those policies are appallingly thought out, probably written up on the back of a fag packet or on Dianne Abbott's back !!!

Labour under Corbyn would bankrupt this country quicker than Blair and Brown could ever manage.

Then it would be down to the next Tory government to pick up the detritus left by Corbyn.

Yo yo politics at it's worst !

It's a disaster waiting to happen and we thought the likes of the dangerous Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Ron Skinner were relics of a dim and unpleasant past.

Many other cultures respect their elders and respect their wisdom, based upon a lifetime's experiences.

Yet sadly, in this country many of the self centric young and clearly sad people like you despise, disrespect or have very little respect for older people.

Who would you want in probably the most responsible job in the country ?

Someone who thinks like a narrow minded teenager or someone with maturity and some wisdom (which isn't necessarily Teresa May) who can see the bigger picture.

[the other bob wilson]

Try to mock anyone with an ounce of common sense and a recollection of how financially fecked we were by the last labour government, by stating their all docile old dears.

For balance, surely you should equally say that Corbyn appeals to 5 year olds.

As you know, both are utter bullsh!t, so why come out with bullsh!t ? Because you are imbalanced ?

The thing is that Corbyn appeals to the younger people, because he think like a teenager. He's self centric and always been a campaigner. That is why he did well at the election ( still lost to the so called awful Teresa May by over 50 seats ).

Great campaigners don't always make great leaders though.

Those policies are appallingly thought out, probably written up on the back of a fag packet or on Dianne Abbott's back !!!

Labour under Corbyn would bankrupt this country quicker than Blair and Brown could ever manage.

Then it would be down to the next Tory government to pick up the detritus left by Corbyn.

Yo yo politics at it's worst !

It's a disaster waiting to happen and we thought the likes of the dangerous Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Ron Skinner were relics of a dim and unpleasant past.

Many other cultures respect their elders and respect their wisdom, based upon a lifetime's experiences.

Yet sadly, in this country many of the self centric young and clearly sad people like you despise, disrespect or have very little respect for older people.

Who would you want in probably the most responsible job in the country ?

Someone who thinks like a narrow minded teenager or someone with maturity and some wisdom (which isn't necessarily Teresa May) who can see the bigger picture.

In the audience for Question Time last week, there was a very emotional man with the veins in his neck pulsating wildly who was eventually thrown out for continuously shouting over some of the guests. He was a Labour supporter and I couldn't help thinking that the high ups in that party must have been pleased when David Dimbleby decided enough was enough because he was losing them votes by the minute - reading your hysterical rant, I find myself thinking much the same, but from the Tory side of the spectrum.

Sometimes, but not too often, I feel a smidgeon of sympathy for Conservative voters currently because so many of the certainties of life that existed for them as Theresa May embarked on her victory tour before the event of Labour seats she was going to win have been shattered - based on your message above, this has, obviously, hit you very hard.

Turning to your measured critique of the younger generation, I've alluded before on here to the fact that it's possible to see parallels between today's youngsters and the babyboomer generation. I would have thought that most historians would say that babyboomers' political views and commitment were a big factor behind the sixties being recognised as a decade when liberalism, tolerance and open mindedness flourished despite there being a very polarised society - it's too early to say whether we are on the brink of seeing the most politically motivated young generation in fifty years, but I'd say it's more likely now than it was this time last year.

If it does occur, then I sincerely hope that the same thing doesn't happen to today's sixteen to twenty four year olds as happened to the babyboomers because they are part of a "grey vote" that, if the polls are to be believed, are turning more reactionary and closed minded by the year.

At 61, one of the differences between how I think now and how I thought ten years ago is that I'm increasingly aware of my own mortality, but there is another fear that eats away at me and that is that the day is getting ever closer when I go to sleep one night and find that I've turned into a selfish bigot when I wake up the following morning.

Of course, it would be wrong to make sweeping generalisations about old people in the way you have about today's youngsters. There are still very many pensioners who have carried the fire and beliefs of their youth into old age, but, based on my, admittedly limited, experience, there are far more who haven't.

I make a point of not discussing politics with many of the senior citizens I know because these people, who I certainly cannot say I dislike, have a tendency to launch into their best Alf Garnett impressions when the conversation turns to politics and, in particular, immigration.

No, give me the idealism and enthusiasm of youth over the cold hearted resentment of many of today's oldies when it comes to politics any day of the week.

[Mrs Steve R]

At 61, one of the differences between how I think now and how I thought ten years ago is that I'm increasingly aware of my own mortality, but there is another fear that eats away at me and that is that the day is getting ever closer when I go to sleep one night and find that I've turned into a selfish bigot when I wake up the following morning.

Of course, it would be wrong to make sweeping generalisations about old people in the way you have about today's youngsters. There are still very many pensioners who have carried the fire and beliefs of their youth into old age, but, based on my, admittedly limited, experience, there are far more who haven't.

I make a point of not discussing politics with many of the senior citizens I know because these people, who I certainly cannot say I dislike, have a tendency to launch into their best Alf Garnett impressions when the conversation turns to politics and, in particular, immigration.

No, give me the idealism and enthusiasm of youth over the cold hearted resentment of many of today's oldies when it comes to politics any day of the week.

I'm just gobsmacked by that, so age turns people in to selfish bigots? but we mustn't make sweeping generalisations about them or talk to them about politics in case they say something we don't want to hear, after all they are just all cold hearted and full of resentment, who cares what they think?

I think it's absolutely disgraceful the way elderly people are treated in this country, it got particularly worse over brexit, the view seemed to be that all the oldies wont be around so who gives a stuff what their views are on it, never mind the fact that many of them will have lost loved ones fighting in wars for this country, never mind that they have paid in to the system their whole lives only to be told they are selfish and a burden by some youngsters who's only idea of living through hard times is their phone running out of battery, I think it's shameful tbh.

[Packerman]

I'm just gobsmacked by that, so age turns people in to selfish bigots? but we mustn't make sweeping generalisations about them or talk to them about politics in case they say something we don't want to hear, after all they are just all cold hearted and full of resentment, who cares what they think?

I think it's absolutely disgraceful the way elderly people are treated in this country, it got particularly worse over brexit, the view seemed to be that all the oldies wont be around so who gives a stuff what their views are on it, never mind the fact that many of them will have lost loved ones fighting in wars for this country, never mind that they have paid in to the system their whole lives only to be told they are selfish and a burden by some youngsters who's only idea of living through hard times is their phone running out of battery, I think it's shameful tbh.

very well said

[the other bob wilson]

I'm just gobsmacked by that, so age turns people in to selfish bigots? but we mustn't make sweeping generalisations about them or talk to them about politics in case they say something we don't want to hear, after all they are just all cold hearted and full of resentment, who cares what they think?

I think it's absolutely disgraceful the way elderly people are treated in this country, it got particularly worse over brexit, the view seemed to be that all the oldies wont be around so who gives a stuff what their views are on it, never mind the fact that many of them will have lost loved ones fighting in wars for this country, never mind that they have paid in to the system their whole lives only to be told they are selfish and a burden by some youngsters who's only idea of living through hard times is their phone running out of battery, I think it's shameful tbh.

If I was talking about old people in general terms you'd be right to say what you did, but I wasn't - it was hardly as if I was advocating euthanasia for anyone reaching seventy five. What I was saying was that when it comes to politics, I've found that the selfish bigot quota is higher in older people than it is in younger ones.

I don't like using this term, but you have taken a portion of what I said and in doing so removed it from the context it was posted in. Also, yes I do try to avoid talking politics with some of the senior citizens I know and one of the reasons for that is that I don't like what they have to say on the subject, but, just as important in most instances, is that I don't want to fall out with someone that I regard as a friend.

[jon1959]

It's a disaster waiting to happen and we thought the likes of the dangerous Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Ron Skinner were relics of a dim and unpleasant past.

I think you're talking total crap when it comes to Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott, but you do have a point about Ron Skinner. Without doubt he is the most dangerous car salesman called Skinner in Tredegar!

http://www.ronskinnerandsons.co.uk

[Sgt. Pepper]

Try to mock anyone with an ounce of common sense and a recollection of how financially fecked we were by the last labour government, by stating their all docile old dears.

For balance, surely you should equally say that Corbyn appeals to 5 year olds.

As you know, both are utter bullsh!t, so why come out with bullsh!t ? Because you are imbalanced ?


The thing is that Corbyn appeals to the younger people, because he think like a teenager. He's self centric and always been a campaigner. That is why he did well at the election ( still lost to the so called awful Teresa May by over 50 seats ).

Great campaigners don't always make great leaders though.

Those policies are appallingly thought out, probably written up on the back of a fag packet or on Dianne Abbott's back !!!

Labour under Corbyn would bankrupt this country quicker than Blair and Brown could ever manage.

Then it would be down to the next Tory government to pick up the detritus left by Corbyn.

Yo yo politics at it's worst !

It's a disaster waiting to happen and we thought the likes of the dangerous Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Ron Skinner were relics of a dim and unpleasant past.

Many other cultures respect their elders and respect their wisdom, based upon a lifetime's experiences.

Yet sadly, in this country many of the self centric young and clearly sad people like you despise, disrespect or have very little respect for older people.

Who would you want in probably the most responsible job in the country ?

Someone who thinks like a narrow minded teenager or someone with maturity and some wisdom (which isn't necessarily Teresa May) who can see the bigger picture.

I believe that you have the wrong end of the stick feller.

I have nothing but respect for older and wiser folk.

I was referring to Mays' public appearances during her recent 'Election Campaign (we are led to believe that is what she was trying to do) where she seemed to arrive in a bus with a selection of carefully selected oldies / safe ol' Tory flagwavers.

Absolute opposite of Cobyn's spontaneous crowds.

Then you get personal against me, not that I mind that at all. It reinforces your 'type' really.