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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    in a word no.

    far too much tinkering, 60 out of 90 mins thats down to the refs, how many time have we seen time wasting from the first minute and yet the ref only books the keeper in the 90th.

    Penalty - pish.

    i`ll leave the other fanciful stuff for now.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Whatever happened to four quarters, bigger goals, sin bins, shoulder pads and more advertising?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Some good stuff there. Van Basten is behind a lot of this in his role at FIFA and, just as Cruyff brought a lot of coaching ideas from the sport, he's another Dutchman taking some good initiatives from field hockey. The self-pass rule is excellent, it helps the game to flow and stops players from arguing with the ref at every decision as the game moves on instantly. May not be quite as effective in football but definitely worth experimenting with. I've mentioned the rule about penalties on here before, it's ridiculous that a player can have his penalty brilliantly saved by the keeper but tap the rebound in for a goal. How many goes does he want at it? The timekeeping rule has its merits too, that's another idea largely taken from hockey.

    Hockey already has video referrals and also has sin bins, rolling subs, shuffles instead of penalty shoot-outs (one on ones with the keeper from 25 yards out) and no offside. Be ready for some, if not all, of these to be suggested soon too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    Some good stuff there. Van Basten is behind a lot of this in his role at FIFA and, just as Cruyff brought a lot of coaching ideas from the sport, he's another Dutchman taking some good initiatives from field hockey. The self-pass rule is excellent, it helps the game to flow and stops players from arguing with the ref at every decision as the game moves on instantly. May not be quite as effective in football but definitely worth experimenting with. I've mentioned the rule about penalties on here before, it's ridiculous that a player can have his penalty brilliantly saved by the keeper but tap the rebound in for a goal. How many goes does he want at it? The timekeeping rule has its merits too, that's another idea largely taken from hockey.

    Hockey already has video referrals and also has sin bins, rolling subs, shuffles instead of penalty shoot-outs (one on ones with the keeper from 25 yards out) and no offside. Be ready for some, if not all, of these to be suggested soon too.
    The penalty rule is not ridiculous. It has been in place since the 1880s. It's worked for 130 years or more.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    Some good stuff there. Van Basten is behind a lot of this in his role at FIFA and, just as Cruyff brought a lot of coaching ideas from the sport, he's another Dutchman taking some good initiatives from field hockey. The self-pass rule is excellent, it helps the game to flow and stops players from arguing with the ref at every decision as the game moves on instantly. May not be quite as effective in football but definitely worth experimenting with. I've mentioned the rule about penalties on here before, it's ridiculous that a player can have his penalty brilliantly saved by the keeper but tap the rebound in for a goal. How many goes does he want at it? The timekeeping rule has its merits too, that's another idea largely taken from hockey.

    Hockey already has video referrals and also has sin bins, rolling subs, shuffles instead of penalty shoot-outs (one on ones with the keeper from 25 yards out) and no offside. Be ready for some, if not all, of these to be suggested soon too.
    I'm not sure I agree about the penalties. They are technically special free kicks and just like FKs play begins again once the kick is taken. Maybe they could have a rule that the penalty taker can't touch the ball after a save, like when it rebounds off the woodwork.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Load of shite

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Load of shite
    Succinctly and accurately, put .

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    I would love a sin bin for cynical fouls, these are so frustrating late on in a game where getting a yellow means nothing. I think clearing up the handball rule is positive too, ask 10 different people and get 10 different definitions.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Football is the world's most popular spectator sport, it is a multi-billion dollar industry. It's stars are as famous as politicians worldwide. So, yes, the game is completely broke and needs complete fixing. FFS.

    If the game becomes 60 minutes long, with a stopped clock whenever the ball goes out of play, it will be impossible to have matches that start at the same time to finish at the same time.

    The other law changes are not worth discussing because they are purely ridiculous.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    This stopping the clock nonsense sounds suspiciously like a USA proposal.
    We'll be going to adverts every 5 minutes.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    Football is the world's most popular spectator sport, it is a multi-billion dollar industry. It's stars are as famous as politicians worldwide. So, yes, the game is completely broke and needs complete fixing. FFS.

    If the game becomes 60 minutes long, with a stopped clock whenever the ball goes out of play, it will be impossible to have matches that start at the same time to finish at the same time.

    The other law changes are not worth discussing because they are purely ridiculous.
    Fair point about matches finishing at roughly the same time. Timewasting can be dealt with in other ways, less drastic than this.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Fair point about matches finishing at roughly the same time. Timewasting can be dealt with in other ways, less drastic than this.
    Timewasting can be dealt with NOW. It only needs refs to apply the current laws in a consistent manner.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Timewasting can be dealt with NOW. It only needs refs to apply the current laws in a consistent manner.
    Exactly. Although taking the responsibility of time management from the referee and passing it to the 4th official could be one small change that is necessary.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Strippers at halftime

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    The only change "Kris" doesn't fear is the one to his own username every few months


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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    The only change "Kris" doesn't fear is the one to his own username every few months

    You'll have "Nick" onto you in minute

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You'll have "Nick" onto you in minute
    Ah yes, "Nick". Not at all suspicious.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    The only change "Kris" doesn't fear is the one to his own username every few months

    Oh look, everyone is discussing something and you are feeling left out so join with something pointless and a petty accusation. ASW.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    Oh look, everyone is discussing something and you are feeling left out so join with something pointless and a petty accusation. ASW.
    your jerger

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Ah yes, "Nick". Not at all suspicious.
    So I am Nick?

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    I'm not sure I agree about the penalties. They are technically special free kicks and just like FKs play begins again once the kick is taken. Maybe they could have a rule that the penalty taker can't touch the ball after a save, like when it rebounds off the woodwork.
    That doesn't make sense either. What problem does this rule change fix?

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    That doesn't make sense either. What problem does this rule change fix?
    The suggested unfair advantage of having the ball at your feet with no-one marking you and the goalie on the ground, after he/she saved the initial pelanty.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    The suggested unfair advantage of having the ball at your feet with no-one marking you and the goalie on the ground, after he/she saved the initial pelanty.
    Thanks. I think your suggestion is a decent compromise. Players aren't allowed to have two goes at it in a shoot-out so the precedent is already there.

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    Re: Reforms to the game

    Absolutely NOT. This will surely only encourage more time wasting,

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