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    Internet Clampdown Coming

    Number 10 gave a strong hint to reporters that new anti-terror measures to tackle online extremism - including far-right radicalisation - could be in the Queen’s speech on Wednesday.

    Last week, May announced a UK-French initiative to explore creating a new legal liability for tech companies if they fail to remove inflammatory content, which could include penalties such as fines.

    May also pledged during the election campaign that the government would develop tools with tech companies to crack down on online extremism.

    On Monday after May met community leaders in Finsbury Park following the van attack on worshippers leaving the mosque, Downing Street said the reforms were a priority for the government “Extremism takes many forms and she has spelled out as a couple of weeks ago that we have plans to crack down on extremism, there is extremism on the internet of all kinds and we’ll be focusing on extremism of all kinds,” the prime minister’s spokesman said “She was very clear that we are going to bring this work forward and we are going to focus on all forms of extremism.”

    Downing Street would not commit to the final package being announced in the Queen’s speech however. “We are going to bring forward this work soon,” the spokesman said.
    Any predictions?

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    Mrs Steve R to stop looking at her neighbours *nob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Any predictions?
    Awww it's not fair, I wanted to share some bad news, ruined it for me now.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
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    A party moving further to the right taking away rights, who saw that coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    A party moving further to the right taking away rights, who saw that coming?
    Now the solution has it's problem! May has been banging on about censoring the internet since her days as home secretary.

    I also remember Cameron once gave a definition of online extremism, and it was basically anybody with an opinion that didn't agree with his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Now the solution has it's problem! May has been banging on about censoring the internet since her days as home secretary.

    I also remember Cameron once gave a definition of online extremism, and it was basically anybody with an opinion that didn't agree with his.
    Sounds like Annis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Now the solution has it's problem! May has been banging on about censoring the internet since her days as home secretary.
    “Extremism takes many forms and she has spelled out as a couple of weeks ago that we have plans to crack down on extremism, there is extremism on the internet of all kinds and we’ll be focusing on extremism "


    White people are creating atrocities too now, so we'll have to tighten up internet security for EVERYONE.Only for your own safety (obviously)!

    You couldn't f*cking make it up!! Well played guys, well played!
    Keep watching the left hand of Darkness whilst the right is waved in front of you...

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    Murdoch gets his reward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Any predictions?
    It will start off as laws that target extremism and people will be happy because terrorists are being caught,

    Then the laws will be applied to non-terrorists and people will ignore it or say "That's the price for my children's safety". Some will complain (probably liberals) and these people will be accused of allowing extremism to exist. The liberals will argue back after which we will hear the line "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" or "the Government doesn't care if you are watching porn" or some other nonsense like that.

    Terrorism will continue and we'll rewind the tape and play it all over again for some new laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    It will start off as laws that target extremism and people will be happy because terrorists are being caught,

    Then the laws will be applied to non-terrorists and people will ignore it or say "That's the price for my children's safety". Some will complain (probably liberals) and these people will be accused of allowing extremism to exist. The liberals will argue back after which we will hear the line "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" or "the Government doesn't care if you are watching porn" or some other nonsense like that.

    Terrorism will continue and we'll rewind the tape and play it all over again for some new laws.
    We can be sure the reforms won't affect people's ability to update their Facebook profile. Which'll ensure a muted response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    It will start off as laws that target extremism and people will be happy because terrorists are being caught,

    Then the laws will be applied to non-terrorists and people will ignore it or say "That's the price for my children's safety". Some will complain (probably liberals) and these people will be accused of allowing extremism to exist. The liberals will argue back after which we will hear the line "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" or "the Government doesn't care if you are watching porn" or some other nonsense like that.

    Terrorism will continue and we'll rewind the tape and play it all over again for some new laws.
    Didn't this government try to ban more unusual porn?

    The liberals argument has been, at least in the past, that an increase in collection of information isn't so good if it obscures key information by it's sheer mass. Do we have enough people to make a proper assessment of hundreds of thousands of additional files? How much personal data are they going to be allowed to go through before they find something? It doesn't necessarily keep us safe and sacrifices our civil liberties.

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    Best get an external drive and get downloading porn in case it kicks in next week!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maccy Blue View Post
    Best get an external drive and get downloading porn in case it kicks in next week!!
    Any links? Asking for a friend.
    Keep watching the left hand of Darkness whilst the right is waved in front of you...

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    I would say it will be about Money knowing the Tories....so you can use the internet in your local area (Cardiff) after that we would have to pay and go through a rigorous registration process...it sounds crazy but it can't go on like it is IMHO learning how to make a bomb on line is fcuking crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    I would say it will be about Money knowing the Tories....so you can use the internet in your local area (Cardiff) after that we would have to pay and go through a rigorous registration process...it sounds crazy but it can't go on like it is IMHO learning how to make a bomb on line is fcuking crazy.
    You sound like an expert, could you please translate this, "there is extremism on the internet of all kinds and we’ll be focusing on extremism of all kinds".

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    So we won't be able to call the Tories a bunch of ** ****** ****** any more?

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    So what is the solution and next step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You sound like an expert, could you please translate this, "there is extremism on the internet of all kinds and we’ll be focusing on extremism of all kinds".
    No expert just my experience of western capitalism....the british and american businessman are the smartest in the world they'll fleece you for your last penny even if that is nicking an extra inch of legroom on your holiday flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maccy Blue View Post
    Best get an external drive and get downloading porn in case it kicks in next week!!
    I'll stick with my cd's thanks.

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    So what is the solution

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Didn't this government try to ban more unusual porn?

    The liberals argument has been, at least in the past, that an increase in collection of information isn't so good if it obscures key information by it's sheer mass. Do we have enough people to make a proper assessment of hundreds of thousands of additional files? How much personal data are they going to be allowed to go through before they find something? It doesn't necessarily keep us safe and sacrifices our civil liberties.
    I would argue that GCHQ already has the tools to do what they need to.

    Theresa May on the WannaCry virus "It infected a Window computer".

    It strikes me that maybe this is yet another idealogical decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    So what is the solution
    Solution to what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    I'll stick with my cd's thanks.
    you taken back your sofa sized USB drive then ?? ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    So what is the solution
    Twitter and Facebook have given a platform for nutters to spread their stupid, hate filled opinions to a mass audience and those that do so need to be accountable for what they post.

    I'm not suggesting censorship, I am suggesting accountability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    you taken back your sofa sized USB drive then ?? ?
    Using it as a sofa instead.

    Makes more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    So what is the solution
    It depends on what the definition of "all kinds of extremism" is. Theresa May is pretty vague when it comes to describing things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    No expert just my experience of western capitalism....the british and american businessman are the smartest in the world they'll fleece you for your last penny even if that is nicking an extra inch of legroom on your holiday flight.
    We do seem to have the most amazing choice of cheap airlines though so let's be fair.

    Yours,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    Using it as a sofa instead.

    Makes more sense.
    especially in this heat, dont want to lug it all the way back to the store

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Any predictions?
    Snoopers charter not working out too well then.

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    I dropped my son and his mate off at Stanstead airport at 4.30 this morning drove up to the terminal got the bags out have a good time in shagamoose boys drove off £3.50 to get out fleeced again.

    CNUTS

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    "Any predictions?"

    Believe it or not the security services are not interested in your bizarre w@nking online behaviour.
    What they are interested in is metadata, direction of traffic, and getting ISP's to have a more concise 'big data' logging systems that keeps historical data.

    No easy task

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    "Any predictions?"

    Believe it or not the security services are not interested in your bizarre w@nking online behaviour.
    What they are interested in is metadata, direction of traffic, and getting ISP's to have a more concise 'big data' logging systems that keeps historical data.

    No easy task
    They are interested when the wanking is over kids and rightly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    "Any predictions?"

    Believe it or not the security services are not interested in your bizarre w@nking online behaviour.
    What they are interested in is metadata, direction of traffic, and getting ISP's to have a more concise 'big data' logging systems that keeps historical data.

    No easy task
    Interesting, then, that people's internet history is quite often used as evidence in a Court of Law (or the press - depends who sees it first).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    Interesting, then, that people's internet history is quite often used as evidence in a Court of Law (or the press - depends who sees it first).
    The internet history you are talking about is the browser cache and other logs which are stored on the persons device.
    Any wanna be terrorist etc would have wiped that, or would have used a USB based OS like Kali Linux etc and then thrown away the usb stick.

    The internet history I am talking about is the IP traffic, the destination IP address, what other protocols used etc.
    Did they use the TOR (The Onion Router) and associated tools.

    It is near on impossible to track such things as a matter of course, and the amount of data needed is huge. There are tools that can do it - but they wouldn't be able to cope with the levels of traffic. You could attempt to filter it - but with websites and communication methods ever changing - it's not as straight forward as people make out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    The internet history you are talking about is the browser cache and other logs which are stored on the persons device.
    Any wanna be terrorist etc would have wiped that, or would have used a USB based OS like Kali Linux etc and then thrown away the usb stick.

    The internet history I am talking about is the IP traffic, the destination IP address, what other protocols used etc.
    Did they use the TOR (The Onion Router) and associated tools.

    It is near on impossible to track such things as a matter of course, and the amount of data needed is huge. There are tools that can do it - but they wouldn't be able to cope with the levels of traffic. You could attempt to filter it - but with websites and communication methods ever changing - it's not as straight forward as people make out.
    It sounds like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It sounds like you've just tried to find anything to support this nonsense because the party you "support" are all for it.

    Another example of how stupid partisan politics is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    It sounds like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It sounds like you've just tried to find anything to support this nonsense because the party you "support" are all for it.

    Another example of how stupid partisan politics is.



    The old Feedback would have tied you up in knots by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post


    The old Feedback would have tied you up in knots by now.
    Ah but would he have had him looking sheepishly at the ground speechless ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    The internet history you are talking about is the browser cache and other logs which are stored on the persons device.
    Any wanna be terrorist etc would have wiped that, or would have used a USB based OS like Kali Linux etc and then thrown away the usb stick.

    The internet history I am talking about is the IP traffic, the destination IP address, what other protocols used etc.
    Did they use the TOR (The Onion Router) and associated tools.

    It is near on impossible to track such things as a matter of course, and the amount of data needed is huge. There are tools that can do it - but they wouldn't be able to cope with the levels of traffic. You could attempt to filter it - but with websites and communication methods ever changing - it's not as straight forward as people make out.
    You make it sound like this will only affect nasty terrorists. The fact is, anti terrorism laws have been used before for trivial matters

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...in-crimes.html

    When the Government gets rid of human rights laws to fight terrorism, the new laws are not selective and apply to all.

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    the key here will be the term intranet

    you use the government safe intranet, where all the sites are checked, you can go about your business knowing you are fairly safe

    imagine it to be akin to China's 'net

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    the key here will be the term intranet

    you use the government safe intranet, where all the sites are checked, you can go about your business knowing you are fairly safe

    imagine it to be akin to China's 'net
    I've only heard great things about the Chinese internet.

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