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Thread: Scott Malone

  1. #1

    Scott Malone

    In talks with Huddersfield apparently. Not really rated by some during his time here. Must say that i am surprised that he is considered to be Premier League quality. Was it Dortmund who were reputedly in for him before he came to us?

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Yes, but around the time that Dortmund were signing that Korean who played in a poor Sunderland side and not the one signing Poland's or France's best.

    I don't think Malone has enough to make a premier league regular, nor do I think he has it to be in a top championship side, but he clearly has something. He's scored one or two good goals while here but I still don't quite get Fulham or Huddersfield's interest.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Defensively a poor fullback. Fulham use him as a wingback which played to his strengths.
    Worst player on the field when Fulham played Spurs in the cup, would struggle big time in the premier.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Good player, not sure why he was so undervalued here, Fulham definitely got the better end of the bargain with Richards

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by JKB View Post
    Defensively a poor fullback. Fulham use him as a wingback which played to his strengths.
    Worst player on the field when Fulham played Spurs in the cup, would struggle big time in the premier.
    Not so sure about that. The premier league needs attacking full backs where there is less onus on defending but more on attacking. He'll be ok there. He definitely has a good left foot.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    'Worst player on the pitch' on one occasion is heading to the PL, regardless.
    Hudds must have a bit of confidence in the guy, otherwise why would they bother?

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Good player, not sure why he was so undervalued here, Fulham definitely got the better end of the bargain with Richards
    Not a chance. Very poor stint here.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Good player, not sure why he was so undervalued here, Fulham definitely got the better end of the bargain with Richards

    I think Richards had a lot of skill to be unlocked ,Malone is a decent journeyman footballer .

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    Re: Scott Malone

    As remarked earlier in the thread, Malone had a mare against Spurs, but I must say that for more of last season, he looked like someone who could play in the Premier League. I say that as someone who was pretty critical of him while he was here and was not bothered at all when he left. I reckon Fulham manager Slaviša Jokanović deserved the credit for, first, seeing what Malone was capable of and then, in a manner that Russell Slade could never emulate, actually getting the best out of him, whereas all we saw here was the odd flash of potential and ability, mixed in with a lot of inconsistency.

  10. #10

    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Not so sure about that. The premier league needs attacking full backs where there is less onus on defending but more on attacking. He'll be ok there. He definitely has a good left foot.
    Less onus on defending? When you're one of the favourites to go down? Absolute rubbish.

  11. #11

    Re: Scott Malone

    Plenty of premier league defenders got torn a new one by Spurs last season. It's not really a benchmark.
    It's what Huddersfield do against the likes of Brighton, Watford, Burnley, Swansea, Palace.etc will make or break their season.
    They are lookin to sign some of the better players in the championship - Danny Williams, Tom Ince are another two they are in talks with - so if they do go down then they can go again. Much like Burnley did the first time they went up.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    As remarked earlier in the thread, Malone had a mare against Spurs, but I must say that for more of last season, he looked like someone who could play in the Premier League. I say that as someone who was pretty critical of him while he was here and was not bothered at all when he left. I reckon Fulham manager Slaviša Jokanović deserved the credit for, first, seeing what Malone was capable of and then, in a manner that Russell Slade could never emulate, actually getting the best out of him, whereas all we saw here was the odd flash of potential and ability, mixed in with a lot of inconsistency.
    Was asked to do an impossible job at City playing behind a static Whittingham; expected to overlap as a winger and then castigated when opposition pinged the ball into the left back area and he was not there.

    StT.

  13. #13

    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    Was asked to do an impossible job at City playing behind a static Whittingham; expected to overlap as a winger and then castigated when opposition pinged the ball into the left back area and he was not there.

    StT.
    Malone was left on an island constantly in 2 against one situations and had some indecision. Would have liked to see him play for Warnock, I think he'd have sorted him out. Jokanovic certainly has, got into the PFA team of the year after all.

    Another problem from the stands is that he wasn't Declan John.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Less onus on defending? When you're one of the favourites to go down? Absolute rubbish.
    Full backs in the top flight are expected to be able to attack. Being a good defensive full back in the top division isn't enough. Many clubs in the Prem seem to prioritise a full back who is comfortable getting forward over one who isn't but is defensively more sound.

    Take a club legend in Kevin McNaughton. Fantastic defender, but would never have made the step up due to his lack of ability over the half way line. Comfortable on the ball wasn't a phrase you'd use for McNaughton.

    Fabio is hardly a great defender but he's had much more Premier League time than McNaughton simply because he's more attack minded.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Malone was left on an island constantly in 2 against one situations and had some indecision. Would have liked to see him play for Warnock, I think he'd have sorted him out. Jokanovic certainly has, got into the PFA team of the year after all.

    Another problem from the stands is that he wasn't Declan John.
    Thank god he wasnt Declan John - we would have been relegated !!.

  16. #16

    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Thank god he wasnt Declan John - we would have been relegated !!.
    I wouldn't go that far but he's not as good. However, if you went on here or ****, John was proclaimed as the best full back at the club by a distance.

  17. #17

    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    I wouldn't go that far but he's not as good. However, if you went on here or ****, John was proclaimed as the best full back at the club by a distance.
    Not by me - I reckon that John and Theophile-Catherine were the two main reasons we went down. Both were continually caught out of position up the field. Both were also inept at marking and tackling. The Liverpool games home and away are ones that comes to mind - the full backs were continually caught on the half way line, with simple balls into the space behind them causing havoc.

  18. #18

    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Full backs in the top flight are expected to be able to attack. Being a good defensive full back in the top division isn't enough. Many clubs in the Prem seem to prioritise a full back who is comfortable getting forward over one who isn't but is defensively more sound.

    Take a club legend in Kevin McNaughton. Fantastic defender, but would never have made the step up due to his lack of ability over the half way line. Comfortable on the ball wasn't a phrase you'd use for McNaughton.

    Fabio is hardly a great defender but he's had much more Premier League time than McNaughton simply because he's more attack minded.
    Aside from United every club Fabio has played for in the Premier League has been relegated!!!

    Which leads me back to the point that teams like Huddersfield, who will be spending more time defending than attacking, their defenders are going to need to be able to defend. You say there is less onus on defending I say there is far more onus on defending for a club like Huddersfield than if youre playing full back for a Spurs or Man City.

    Burnley stayed up by being solid at the back, especially at home, not with their full backs marauding up the wing.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Not by me - I reckon that John and Theophile-Catherine were the two main reasons we went down. Both were continually caught out of position up the field. Both were also inept at marking and tackling. The Liverpool games home and away are ones that comes to mind - the full backs were continually caught on the half way line, with simple balls into the space behind them causing havoc.
    Wales Online regularly called him our best full back, and ***** and his mates regularly chastised Slade and even Warnock for not picking him. He was terrible, his positional play is non-existent. It's taken Warnock telling us he doesn't knuckle down and will not make it as a left back for people to see. He's been messed around but he hasn't kicked on.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Malone was left on an island constantly in 2 against one situations and had some indecision. Would have liked to see him play for Warnock, I think he'd have sorted him out. Jokanovic certainly has, got into the PFA team of the year after all.

    Another problem from the stands is that he wasn't Declan John.
    One of my customers goes to all Fulham games home and away and says hes been great going forward but very suspect in defence. Maybe that was Whitts fault too?

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Full backs in the top flight are expected to be able to attack. Being a good defensive full back in the top division isn't enough. Many clubs in the Prem seem to prioritise a full back who is comfortable getting forward over one who isn't but is defensively more sound.

    Take a club legend in Kevin McNaughton. Fantastic defender, but would never have made the step up due to his lack of ability over the half way line. Comfortable on the ball wasn't a phrase you'd use for McNaughton.

    Fabio is hardly a great defender but he's had much more Premier League time than McNaughton simply because he's more attack minded.
    There's nothing wrong with the left full back attacking providing the left sided midfielder covered Malone. The problem was that, 'Dick,' Whittingham resolutely stayed inside and did not cover when Malone attacked.

    StT.

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    There's nothing wrong with the left full back attacking providing the left sided midfielder covered Malone. The problem was that, 'Dick,' Whittingham resolutely stayed inside and did not cover when Malone attacked.

    StT.
    Not sure Whittingham played on the left much when Malone played left back, he was more of a central midfielder in those days wasn't he?

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    There's nothing wrong with the left full back attacking providing the left sided midfielder covered Malone. The problem was that, 'Dick,' Whittingham resolutely stayed inside and did not cover when Malone attacked.

    StT.
    Joe Ralls was the left sided player in front of Malone but dont let the truth get in the way of a good Whitts bashing

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Joe Ralls was the left sided player in front of Malone but dont let the truth get in the way of a good Whitts bashing
    Was he? We played Whitts, Ralls, SOK and Noone across the middle (or similar), when we moved Pilks and Immers up top. Not slagging off Whitts, he was obviously there to accommodate him and he was given a free-ish role but a consequence of that is that Malone got exposed, whereas Noone covered Peltier more (who as it happened, was the better defender anyway). Three game highlights there, where you can see how we lined up when we defend, and Whitts is definitely on the left of the midfield.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLOZBZ7EF0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzNlxBR-5TE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWUbvAsokmg

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    Re: Scott Malone

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Was he? We played Whitts, Ralls, SOK and Noone across the middle (or similar), when we moved Pilks and Immers up top. Not slagging off Whitts, he was obviously there to accommodate him and he was given a free-ish role but a consequence of that is that Malone got exposed, whereas Noone covered Peltier more (who as it happened, was the better defender anyway). Three game highlights there, where you can see how we lined up when we defend, and Whitts is definitely on the left of the midfield.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLOZBZ7EF0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzNlxBR-5TE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWUbvAsokmg
    All 3 links back end of the season. We played majority of the season with Ralls tucked inside left. Im sure I could find links with Ralls on the left from that season but I really CBA.

    As for the links themselves im not sure what they prove exactly apart from some sublime skills by Whitts and not a statue who left Scott Malone constanly exposed 2 on 1?

    Its how we look at the game individually I suppose.

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