Gwent records the biggest increase in religious and racial hate crimes since Referendum

[Heathblue]

This should be in the politics forum but, I would guess that it was posted in the football forum intentionally.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

There's been an entirely predictable record increase in religious and race hate crimes since the Brexit vote in England and Wales.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7829551.html

The weather's been a lot nicer, too. The Independent doesn't mention that, I bet..

[Rhiw-Blue]

The only faith being mentioned is Islam as usual.
No mention of faith hatred BY Muslims against Jews or Christians.
No mention of hatred against white people.
It's another propaganda piece to show Muslims as victims.
You have LGBT communities fighting for their rights in this country and demonstrate against Trump, yet many who fight against so called racism against Muslims - Islam is not a race, yet fail to fight against the Islamic views on LGBT, misogyny and FGM.
It's this hypocrisy that is leading some to react very badly towards Muslims.
The government and especially the opposition parties and much of Britain have become cowards, afraid to dare say anything negative about Islam, yet it's ideology and a lot of its preachings are NOT congruent in Western countries.
They push and push their agendas, especially under the headings of freedom of speech - yet we are now having 'our' freedom of speech eroded, and equality of religious expression in a previously Christian country.
IF they TRULY believe in that equality, then why don't they also fight the fight for minority Christians and Jews in Muslim majority countries, where those minorities are truly persecuted.

Spot on

[surge]

You stated that I believed that all Islamic terrorism is down to the press which I didn't say, I said that it had an effect on it

The problem has grown significantly in the past few years as a direct result of a number of factors, however round-the-clock news coverage and headlines such as these aren't helping the situation
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Of course Islamic terrorism is a problem

Didn't the sun also have an "enemies of democracy" headline recently too? Or was that the mail?

Such aggressive language as there is in these sorts of papers (and online content) can help build I'll feeling and encourage aggressive action. It won't be the only factor in seemingly increasing troubles but it will be a factor.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Never understood the decision behind splitting the forum into football and politics, especially in the off-season. The strength of this place for me was always the diversity of topics on the front page.

[Heathblue]

Never understood the decision behind splitting the forum into football and politics, especially in the off-season. The strength of this place for me was always the diversity of topics on the front page.

I do agree with you, but a politics forum was created for this type of post, T.O.B.W has complained in the past about the football forum being overrun with this type of post in the footy forum, I wonder why a very intelligent person posted it in the wrong forum
Dem r the rooles

[Nick]

I do agree with you, but a politics forum was created for this type of post, T.O.B.W has complained in the past about the football forum being overrun with this type of post in the footy forum, I wonder why a very intelligent person posted it in the wrong forum
Dem r the rooles

Seeking a wider audience for his political views I would imagine.

[Heathblue]

Seeking a wider audience for his political views I would imagine.

History tells us that every similar post as this one on CCMB always ends up in the same way with a competition to see who can express the best faux pas outrage for their peers and chucking the R word in to try and close down the debate, I didn't read the article BTW. Just like knife crime, and the cost of a tin of baked beans the stats were always going to go up irrespective of the Referendum however, and depending where you buy it, petrol has come down recently, Tesco near the Toby is 8p per litre cheaper than the Texaco near the 3 arches garage at the moment don't normally buy Tesco gas, but tomorrows fill up is giving food for thought tonight.

[TH63]

Never understood the decision behind splitting the forum into football and politics, especially in the off-season. The strength of this place for me was always the diversity of topics on the front page.

It was a decision I supported and even pushed for.

Reason? Feedback and splott dai (although there were others) mainly, were posting so much of their agendas that any football related topics got drowned out.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

It was a decision I supported and even pushed for.

Reason? Feedback and splott dai (although there were others) mainly, were posting so much of their agendas that any football related topics got drowned out.

I don't think at any point the football threads got "drowned out", when there's football news and people want to talk about it then nothing could drown it out.

There might have been more politics threads during the referendums but it was never overwhelming and nothing a little curation couldn't fix.

[TH63]

I don't think at any point the football threads got "drowned out", when there's football news and people want to talk about it then nothing could drown it out.

There might have been more politics threads during the referendums but it was never overwhelming and nothing a little curation couldn't fix.

Different opinions I guess.
At the time it felt like Mike might as well ace created a new sub-forum called "football"

[blue matt]

Different opinions I guess.
At the time it felt like Mike might as well ace created a new sub-forum called "football"

at one point, 27 out of the 40 posts on the first page were political

more and more people were moaning about the amount of political posts and even posts that were not even remotely political, were always dragged into the mess

[JDerrida]

You stated that I believed that all Islamic terrorism is down to the press which I didn't say, I said that it had an effect on it

The problem has grown significantly in the past few years as a direct result of a number of factors, however round-the-clock news coverage and headlines such as these aren't helping the situation
CUc29LLWEAA4ssi.jpg

Of course Islamic terrorism is a problem

So should these matters go unreported ?
That article is from November 2015.
Do you dispute the figures as those, if even remotely true are a major concern.
Do those figures concern you? They should concern EVERYONE in this country.
We don't get these attacks from Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus do we?
Yet the PC media and loony left and liberals want us to readily accept even more Muslims and their ideologies, yet rarely mention any other religious minority who have assimilated more and NEVER cause the West or majority of the rest of the world any problems whatever.
What would help the situation ? Corbyn states that IS blames their terrorist attacks in the UK on Britain foreign policy and as a consequence we should have no further impact in the middle east.
That is about the most juvenile approach to a serious problem from a potential Prime Minister that I have heard in my lifetime.
Firstly, he is believing IS rhetoric. Second and most importantly is, of course IS want no western or Russian involvement in the middle east, as it would give them care blanche to rule the middle east as they saw fit. Even more bloodshed of Christians, Jews, Muslims from a different group or anyone who dares to disagree with them.
Syria is on the border of Turkey, which is the gateway to Europe.
Turkey is now under the regime of dictator Erdogan and he is undoing all of Ataturk's secularism, creating a non secular state in Turkey, where there is 70 million Muslims.
We all know how radical Turks are at football matches.
That will pale into insignificance if the west withdraw from the middle east as the invasion of Europe of Islamic extremism and militancy will continue to take place at an unrivalled pace.

[jeepster]

So should these matters go unreported ?
That article is from November 2015.
Do you dispute the figures as those, if even remotely true are a major concern.
Do those figures concern you? They should concern EVERYONE in this country.
We don't get these attacks from Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus do we?
Yet the PC media and loony left and liberals want us to readily accept even more Muslims and their ideologies, yet rarely mention any other religious minority who have assimilated more and NEVER cause the West or majority of the rest of the world any problems whatever.
What would help the situation ? Corbyn states that IS blames their terrorist attacks in the UK on Britain foreign policy and as a consequence we should have no further impact in the middle east.
That is about the most juvenile approach to a serious problem from a potential Prime Minister that I have heard in my lifetime.
Firstly, he is believing IS rhetoric. Second and most importantly is, of course IS want no western or Russian involvement in the middle east, as it would give them care blanche to rule the middle east as they saw fit. Even more bloodshed of Christians, Jews, Muslims from a different group or anyone who dares to disagree with them.
Syria is on the border of Turkey, which is the gateway to Europe.
Turkey is now under the regime of dictator Erdogan and he is undoing all of Ataturk's secularism, creating a non secular state in Turkey, where there is 70 million Muslims.
We all know how radical Turks are at football matches.
That will pale into insignificance if the west withdraw from the middle east as the invasion of Europe of Islamic extremism and militancy will continue to take place at an unrivalled pace.

And here is todays message from the ukip,britain first ,a18 and edl.

[BlueWales]

I am so ashamed to be Welsh when the moronic people of the valleys start going on about " the immigration problem ".

Usually all you see is white faces up there but the morons have bought the racist right wing press views hook , line and sinker.

Decent places like London , Cardiff and Manchester are tolerant and are building a society where everyone counts.

This is the Cardiff way and it sets a good example for the rest of the UK. Racist scum like JDerrida can ferk off back to their holes as far as I'm concerned. Tosser !

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

I am so ashamed to be Welsh when the moronic people of the valleys start going on about " the immigration problem ".

Usually all you see is white faces up there but the morons have bought the racist right wing press views hook , line and sinker.

Decent places like London , Cardiff and Manchester are tolerant and are building a society where everyone counts.

This is the Cardiff way and it sets a good example for the rest of the UK. Racist scum like JDerrida can ferk off back to their holes as far as I'm concerned. Tosser !

I don't know whether he's right or wrong but it does nobody any favours to just shout "racist" to any opinion you disagree with in an attempt to shut them down.

[Dr Lecter]

I am so ashamed to be Welsh when the moronic people of the valleys start going on about " the immigration problem ".

Usually all you see is white faces up there but the morons have bought the racist right wing press views hook , line and sinker.

Decent places like London , Cardiff and Manchester are tolerant and are building a society where everyone counts.

This is the Cardiff way and it sets a good example for the rest of the UK. Racist scum like JDerrida can ferk off back to their holes as far as I'm concerned. Tosser !

I'm so ashamed to be Welsh when moronic Welsh people accuse a whole section of other Welsh people of being thick racists because of where they live.

Labelling people from the valleys as racists because of the actions of a few idiots is on a par with calling all muslims terrorists because of the actions of a few idiots.

If you think there's no racism in places like Cardiff Manchester or London then you need to get out more.

[Nick]

I'm so ashamed to be Welsh when moronic Welsh people accuse a whole section of other Welsh people of being thick racists because of where they live.

Labelling people from the valleys as racists because of the actions of a few idiots is on a par with calling all muslims terrorists because of the actions of a few idiots.

If you think there's no racism in places like Cardiff Manchester or London then you need to get out more.

Called that one right dr lecter

[LordKenwyne]

Reporting of crimes is becoming far more accepted.

People talk as if racism and bigotry is a modern phenomenon.

Simply imagine if black people, gay people and the religious felt reporting was an easy process decades ago. The figures would be far, far higher.

The UK has never been more socially equal.

If anything the rise in reports is good thing as people are no longer willing to just accept the abuse.

[J R Hartley]

I'm so ashamed to be Welsh when moronic Welsh people accuse a whole section of other Welsh people of being thick racists because of where they live.

Labelling people from the valleys as racists because of the actions of a few idiots is on a par with calling all muslims terrorists because of the actions of a few idiots.

If you think there's no racism in places like Cardiff Manchester or London then you need to get out more.

Spot on

[BlueWales]

I'm so ashamed to be Welsh when moronic Welsh people accuse a whole section of other Welsh people of being thick racists because of where they live.

Labelling people from the valleys as racists because of the actions of a few idiots is on a par with calling all muslims terrorists because of the actions of a few idiots.

If you think there's no racism in places like Cardiff Manchester or London then you need to get out more.

You can't argue with the way the Valleys voted. It's fact. Yes there is some racism in Cardiff and London where cultures rub up against each other. As the Valleys are 95% white why are they so worried about immigrants ?

[J R Hartley]

You can't argue with the way the Valleys voted. It's fact. Yes there is some racism in Cardiff and London where cultures rub up against each other. As the Valleys are 95% white why are they so worried about immigrants ?

So you can't have white immigrants can you? Tosser

[Dr Lecter]

You can't argue with the way the Valleys voted. It's fact. Yes there is some racism in Cardiff and London where cultures rub up against each other. As the Valleys are 95% white why are they so worried about immigrants ?

If you think that people who voted leave are racists then there's really no point trying to debate with you.

Have a nice day.

[LordKenwyne]

You can't argue with the way the Valleys voted. It's fact. Yes there is some racism in Cardiff and London where cultures rub up against each other. As the Valleys are 95% white why are they so worried about immigrants ?

More likely it is down to people in the valley's life being worse with not much to lose.

[City123]

So should these matters go unreported ?
That article is from November 2015.
Do you dispute the figures as those, if even remotely true are a major concern.
Do those figures concern you? They should concern EVERYONE in this country.
We don't get these attacks from Buddhists, Sikhs or Hindus do we?
Yet the PC media and loony left and liberals want us to readily accept even more Muslims and their ideologies, yet rarely mention any other religious minority who have assimilated more and NEVER cause the West or majority of the rest of the world any problems whatever.
What would help the situation ? Corbyn states that IS blames their terrorist attacks in the UK on Britain foreign policy and as a consequence we should have no further impact in the middle east.
That is about the most juvenile approach to a serious problem from a potential Prime Minister that I have heard in my lifetime.
Firstly, he is believing IS rhetoric. Second and most importantly is, of course IS want no western or Russian involvement in the middle east, as it would give them care blanche to rule the middle east as they saw fit. Even more bloodshed of Christians, Jews, Muslims from a different group or anyone who dares to disagree with them.
Syria is on the border of Turkey, which is the gateway to Europe.
Turkey is now under the regime of dictator Erdogan and he is undoing all of Ataturk's secularism, creating a non secular state in Turkey, where there is 70 million Muslims.
We all know how radical Turks are at football matches.
That will pale into insignificance if the west withdraw from the middle east as the invasion of Europe of Islamic extremism and militancy will continue to take place at an unrivalled pace.

Well, seeing as it was misleading bullshit it shouldn't have been reported in that way. The question was this: "How do you feel about young Muslims who leave the UK to join fighters in Syria?" even The Times said it was misleading and apologised in their corrections and clarifications, but the damage was already done

You genuinely sound as if you've pooled the words of every single Donald Trump/Alex Jones/Nigel Farage transcript and are just picking words at random, and since when was "liberal" a dirty word?

You talk about a "PC media" even though, as I've already pointed out, the two biggest newspapers are the right-wing Daily Mail and The Sun

ISIS were an affiliate of Al-Qaeda, who rose to prominence as a result of US involvement in Afghanistan (the first time round) with the Americans funding the Mujahideen who then formed many offshoots following the Soviet-Afghan War, one of which was Al-Qaeda, so it isn't really that juvenile/stupid/dangerous to suggest that today's problem with Islamic terrorism isn't (partially at least) a product of Western involvement in the Middle East/Asia/Islamic nations