Gwent records the biggest increase in religious and racial hate crimes since Referendum

[JDerrida]

So? I am British Pakistani so I would use the term "us" when talking about being British or Welsh or English (I grew up in England btw) or Pakistani

No you're not, you were born in Britain so you are British.

You have Pakistani heritage.

If as a white person, I used the term 'us' discriminating against a non white person and calling those people 'them', it would be considered racist.

It is you calling yourself a British Pakistani, as opposed to simply calling yourself British.

It is you, in this situation and presumably as that is how you see yourself, in many other situations that is perpetuating the difference between you and others.

It is not white people in these situations who are discriminating, but you !!

[J R Hartley]

No you're not, you were born in Britain so you are British.

You have Pakistani heritage.

If as a white person, I used the term 'us' discriminating against a non white person and calling those people 'them', it would be considered racist.

It is you calling yourself a British Pakistani, as opposed to simply calling yourself British.

It is you, in this situation and presumably as that is how you see yourself, in many other situations that is perpetuating the difference between you and others.

It is not white people in these situations who are discriminating, but you !!

[Feedback]

No you're not, you were born in Britain so you are British.

You have Pakistani heritage.

If as a white person, I used the term 'us' discriminating against a non white person and calling those people 'them', it would be considered racist.

It is you calling yourself a British Pakistani, as opposed to simply calling yourself British.

It is you, in this situation and presumably as that is how you see yourself, in many other situations that is perpetuating the difference between you and others.

It is not white people in these situations who are discriminating, but you !!

African American, British American, Italian American, Pakistani British

apparently the use of one of the above denotes racism. honestly. I think.

[Eric Cartman]

Born in Britain and moved to the Projects after first listening to Public Enemy's Fear of a Black Planet.
He's a black man stuck in a Pakistanis body so he gets offended very easily.

Judging by this thread he doesn't.

[JDerrida]

African American, British American, Italian American, Pakistani British

apparently the use of one of the above denotes racism. honestly. I think.

TISS, you're an intelligent poster on here and have enjoyed reading your posts on this thread and others, so will give you a response that you deserve.
I didn't say Adz was being racist, I stated that white people would be considered racist if the word us or them was used in reference to someone with a different colour skin - which is true particularly if said in politically correct confines.
I also said that that type of attitude will only perpetuate divisions in society, rather than having the utopian ideal of full integration of all people's living in the UK.

[Feedback]

I would if she weren't brown bread.

I feel your pain

[Feedback]

TISS, you're an intelligent poster on here and have enjoyed reading your posts on this thread and others, so will give you a response that you deserve.
I didn't say Adz was being racist, I stated that white people would be considered racist if the word us or them was used in reference to someone with a different colour skin - which is true particularly if said in politically correct confines.
I also said that that type of attitude will only perpetuate divisions in society, rather than having the utopian ideal of full integration of all people's living in the UK.

That's fair enough. I appreciate the response.

[JDerrida]

That's fair enough. I appreciate the response.

Even when I rarely disagree with you, I respect your thought out responses.
Cheers TISS.

[TH63]

so do i delete it or not ? ? ?

TH63 has reported it, as he found it offensive

Adz, has said " its being reclaimed " thus its not offensive and by deleting it would not help in the cause of reclamation of the word

As I know that Adz is of Pakistani origin ( he has told me and has mentioned in this thread he is a " British Pakistani " ) i feel his claim that it is being reclaimed must add weight to the argument on deletion of not

Oh its another of them borderline options

So calling someone an "inbread idiot" is ok, calling someone a wanker isn't.

Glad we cleared that one up anyway.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

So calling someone an "inbread idiot" is ok, calling someone a wanker isn't.

Glad we cleared that one up anyway.

You misspelled "idiot".

[xsnaggle]

You misspelled "idiot".

Idiot

[blue matt]

So calling someone an "inbread idiot" is ok, calling someone a wanker isn't.

Glad we cleared that one up anyway.

you are welcome

[J R Hartley]

So calling someone an "inbread idiot" is ok, calling someone a wanker isn't.

Glad we cleared that one up anyway.

Oh lighten up Terrence. The jacks always get called inbreds and connotations to sexually infiltrating a family member on here. I dont see anyone complaining then.

Why dont you offer to help Mike and moderate the board for him instead of throwing stones at Matt all the time?

[TH63]

Who the feck is Terence?

Wasn't it a fair question? You either allow both or none surely?

Yes we call jacks inbreds but we also call them wankers.

If Mike wasn't another mod, and wanted me I'm sure he'd ask, I certainly wouldn't be so presumptuous to offer. Plus I'd probably be crap.

[J R Hartley]

Who the feck is Terence?

Wasn't it a fair question? You either allow both or none surely?

Yes we call jacks inbreds but we also call them wankers.

If Mike wasn't another mod, and wanted me I'm sure he'd ask, I certainly wouldn't be so presumptuous to offer. Plus I'd probably be crap.

We are back to context again.

I think the aggression and tone of Tiger calling Matt a "Wanker" was out of order and deserved to be pulled.

Matt has a thankless task trying to moderate this forum and getting called a "Wanker" just because somone disagreed with his moderating was uncalled for. It wasnt Matt who put the picture up.

[Organ Morgan.]

Who the feck is Terence?

Wasn't it a fair question? You either allow both or none surely?

Yes we call jacks inbreds but we also call them wankers.

If Mike wasn't another mod, and wanted me I'm sure he'd ask, I certainly wouldn't be so presumptuous to offer. Plus I'd probably be crap.

I agree that you would be crap as you would likely delete too much stuff. Now if Moggis ever called on me to serve I would insist on having the power not only to remove messages but to ban posters as well. Given that authority I can state unequivocally that Croesy Blue would be a goner in a minute. Though, his CCMB existence would have lasted 59 seconds longer than Nick's. A few others regularly get on my thrupenny bits. They'd be put on notice with 'behave or else' PMs. I would delete very little except for any submissions critical of yours truly.

[Mrs Steve R]

I agree that you would be crap as you would likely delete too much stuff. Now if Moggis ever called on me to serve I would insist on having the power not only to remove messages but to ban posters as well. Given that authority I can state unequivocally that Croesy Blue would be a goner in a minute. Though, his CCMB existence would have lasted 59 seconds longer than Nick's. A few others regularly get on my thrupenny bits. They'd be put on notice with 'behave or else' PMs. I would delete very little except for any submissions critical of yours truly.

Would you have banned goslow?

[blue matt]

Given that authority I can state unequivocally that Croesy Blue would be a goner in a minute.

How would we cope without his high level of intellectual posts, he is so clever you know

Oh and he has not 1, not 2, but 3 girlfriends, just think of the loss he would be to this place

[TH63]

We are back to context again.

I think the aggression and tone of Tiger calling Matt a "Wanker" was out of order and deserved to be pulled.

Matt has a thankless task trying to moderate this forum and getting called a "Wanker" just because somone disagreed with his moderating was uncalled for. It wasnt Matt who put the picture up.

I agree that calling Matt a wanker was out of order.

Calling him an inbread iddiot (sic) should also be out of order.

[xsnaggle]

I agree that calling Matt a wanker was out of order.

Calling him an inbread iddiot (sic) should also be out of order.

Shirley these to things are completely different.? Calling a man one of them might be an insult but call him the other and you are merely stating the truth.

At least in the vast majority of cases

[Dr Lecter]

Shirley these to things are completely different.? Calling a man one of them might be an insult but call him the other and you are merely stating the truth.

At least in the vast majority of cases

True.

Let's face it we're all wankers.

Some of us more than others, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Oh, and while I'm here I'd like to say that Adz laughing at being called a **** is the ideal response to people trying to use the word as an insult.

Good on you young man.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

True.

Let's face it we're all wankers.

Some of us more than others, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Oh, and while I'm here I'd like to say that Adz laughing at being called a **** is the ideal response to people trying to use the word as an insult.

Good on you young man.

^THIS

[blue matt]

Oh, and while I'm here I'd like to say that Adz laughing at being called a **** is the ideal response to people trying to use the word as an insult.

Good on you young man.

Adz knows he can PM at anytime

Reclaiming is just that

[Dr Lecter]

Adz knows he can PM at anytime

Reclaiming is just that

I like Adz.

He's my favourite ****.

Even if he does like crap music.

[JDerrida]

I agree that calling Matt a wanker was out of order.

Calling him an inbread iddiot (sic) should also be out of order.

Can't you see that there is a difference between certain insults Terence ?

Don't be such a silly sausage old chap is very different to calling someone a stupid f*cking c*nt.